David Kidwell

How many World Cups have there been since then? Are

we talking three? So 2017, we bombed out in the quarterfinals in embarrassing David Kidwell-led circumstances.

Oh, that's right.

We put the we in.

Yeah, that's it.

Yeah, I debuted under David Kidwell.

There you go.

Yeah, so.

Yeah, that's it.

Yeah, I debuted under David Kidwell.

There you go.

Yeah, so...

I reckon.

Yeah, they didn't have a... great deal of options imagine you know just the tom jenkins i know he's not the most you know yeah scores tries does job had a great season you know why not pick your best winger but it might come back to bite them might not but yeah i hope it does uh i'm just giving us a chance hope there's yeah yeah absolutely um that fiji team the reason i'm scared brad is um this recent world cup history so obviously fiji knocked us out of the 2017 world cup what i regard as the most humiliating loss in kiwi's history quarterfinal in wellington trialist 4-2 loss um probably made worse by the post-match uh hysteria with adam blair and david kidwell sticking up for the performance and uh saying that they were happy with it um Sean Johnson having a bit of a meltdown, infamously saying that the fans had been against him from day one and you just got what you wanted.

He backtracked on that one.

Backtracked on that one.

Yep.

David Kidwell.

A couple of others as well.

Isaac Luke makes his debut that season.

We want to go to Welly.

But we ended up going to Welly, to Christchurch, and there was a massive mural of David Kidwell.

There's a photo out there.

It was all of us going to the Keys to eat.

Yeah

... growing up, Willie Mason, there's always that story about Willie Mason laughed at David Kidwell.

Yeah.

And then it really, it just set the Kiwis off, and it, rugby, you don't wanna set the opposition off from-