David Holmgren

Uh, my mother, uh, also grew quite a lot of vegetables and had fruit trees.

Uh, lived in the rural area quite close to where David Holmgren, one of the co-originators of permaculture, uh, lived.

So all of these influenced, uh, my interest in food and sustainability.

I became interested in degrowth, uh, from reading in Ecological Economics, uh, Journal about degrowth.

And this is The Resilient Living Podcast.

Today, we're gonna be talking about the seventh permaculture principle from David Holmgren, uh, which has to do with designing from the, um, from patterns to details, uh, rather than the other way around, which is how we as humans tend to do it.

But we're good at, uh, doing it that way.

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[laughs] I'm just gonna sh- shoehorn that sucker in there, right? [laughs]

Yeah, exactly.

Um, so in David Holmgren's principle number seven, um, one of the things that he said is that the patterns found in nature, in the natural world, are a source of inspiration for permaculture.

Mm.

And so I became a large scale soil consultant and I'm able to help these farmers at any scale.

And now my teacher, my original teachers in permaculture, Jeff Lawton, David Holmgren, they all recommend my work.

Jeff Lohenfels.

Oh my word.

Uh, again, I can't remember his name, but it's the something method.

But this exact method for regular potatoes is in the Permaculture One, not the designer's manual, Permaculture One, written in the nineteen seventies by David Holmgren and Bill Mollison.

And they refer to, like, this is, everybody already know this.

Like, this literally was lost between the time that that was published and today and has become resurrected by YouTube creators and such.

It's really a hero's story podcast, sharing people's stories.

And I've had big honchos like David Holmgren, who co-founded Permaculture, and Larry Santoyo.

And, you know, I've had some rock stars, little rock stars.

Jason Mraz was on my podcast.

It's really a hero's story podcast, sharing people's stories.

And I've had... big honchos like David Holmgren, who co-founded Permaculture, and Larry Santoyo.

And I've had some rock stars, little rock stars.

Jason Mraz was on my podcast earlier.