Right

... like completely chaotic, but not in a way that they actually are effective or productive.

So the real danger here isn't the AI can get out of the box or the AI has some existential risk.

They're building bridges that can fall down and people will die, and those are humans making those decisions.

So it's just, to me, the sort of thing we've seen in America before with Enron.

We've seen it with WorldCom.

Yeah

... is the bridge doesn't have the ability to adapt and affect the audit report, for example, of the bridge.

Davi, what about from your perspective here? Why are we still struggling with this resilience question on what is a cornerstone of so many organizations?

And Microsoft left security until the last minute on a lot of this stuff.

And then when they did get around to it, they were caught behind their own flow.

So they're releasing stuff faster than they could possibly catch up, which just leaves it to the community to figure out like they've always done.

It's sort of in their DNA to say the market will figure it out.

while they struggle.

The administrator panel being complicated is just one symptom of that, but once you get into each piece of the admin console, it's even more complicated.

What are the questions do you have about what CoreView is doing here?

They're pricing in the recording, not the computer.

I, yeah, and I just wanna say, this wasn't like consensus.

This wasn't like a framework.

This wasn't like a pledge.

This was like they said, "We're slamming the door, and we're gonna move on this," executive decision made, and that positions France as clear leadership decision in a clear technology space that has a clear line, and that's what we needed.

Just like, as you say, with PCI DSS, we had the two-year slip on deprecation of TLS 1.0, and that was terrible that the banks could push back, and there was a lot of negotiation, and it came late because the people at risk, that's what it's all about, are unprotected.

And so the harvesting now is going into places like health data, diplomatic cables, uh, state records.

I mean, you know, uh, he's-

What questions do you have for Nico and about Expo?

I kinda wanna key in on the token thing again.

For me, if you have a vendor who's defining the unit of measure, if you said it was a week, your week and my week are both measured in time, but what commitments have you made to really be sure that you ha- aren't taking a credit as an opaque unit that rewards inefficiency instead of results? Or, uh, what we've seen in the AI industry is tokens are abused like crazy to benefit the vendor and to harm the, the customer.

But let me throw in another one there too.

In AI space, this is actually related, how do you test for the integrity of systems or integrity breaches? 'Cause we always test around confidentiality breaches, availability breaches, and things would be bad if the system leaked or went offline.

But where are you testing for the system producing bad answers, like a token being rapidly inflated artificially?

You can have a good understanding of like how much was invested during the assessment in, in a comparison with like the, the consumption that happened during the assessment.

Okay.

But why don't I hand it over to Davi to help explain a little bit more about the Solid protocol?

To, to begin, it's something of a data utility concept.

And so what the Flemish Decree essentially did was set up the ability for people to have data as a function of being a citizen, so having a utility that provides data services, much in the way that telcos work, electricity works, water works.

And so it's not that far-fetched, and they're actually delivering now what is effectively a personal data space or a data wallet.

And that is also a familiar concept for a lot of people.

They have a place that they put their data.

Maybe it's a laptop, maybe it's a phone, maybe it's a PC.

So help us understand how this might work.