And he's got so many books on the shelf of the occult, including this huge one on the Black Mass that Jess

looks at just before the ritual.

He does say, now, this interesting scene before we're introduced to him, when they talk about him, and that's the interesting thing about this film in general, is that we see Bob and Jessica in their car at a car wash, and we see a car wash, and it's like shot, you know, some of these movies are shot very... you don't get the fill of the locations and the time as much as this one.

They actually spend a lot of time establishing stuff and putting scenes in interesting places.

But they're in the car wash, and they're having a conversation about Van Helsing, and then they start talking about, they say he's an anthropologist.

Bob says he's a demonologist, and she's like, no, he's an anthropologist.

Which is like – once he comes in and he starts – it was hilarious.

it up man

Is that what made you think maybe Marcus was gay because of the way he was looking at Kronos?

Maybe.

He is a doctor and he is checking out his...

That's really the only thing at all that's possible.

I just think that it's...

He's definitely – I think he's war-torn, and he's seen too much.

But at the same time, he does seem to care about the village.

It would have been lame, but it would at least have made some kind of sense.

[laughs]

Yeah, they do, like, tests on dogs for, um...

They've done it, and it was, was it learned helplessness? So if they basically make them over time feel helpless, it's how they train a dog because they know that he- they can't do, go s- past a certain threshold.

And I think it was something like a shock collar or something like that, where they would give them something that they wanted and then move it back to where they would get shocked to take it, and then they would take away all, everything that would shock them, and they'd leave the thing there, and they still wouldn't take it.

But that, it doesn't have, there hasn't been enough time to really develop learned helplessness for the monster, but he is obeying Frankenstein-

Okay

... hydrochloric acid, um, rig thing he has in there.

I, I'll give it three, three of those.

Oh

... his wife was dying pretty much, and then, so he left the project.

It, they-- This movie, a lot of people involved with it consider it to be a cursed or jinxed film in a way because a lot of bad stuff happened.

The director actually died when they were making the movie too.

His, uh, was it-- His name was, uh, hang on.

It was Seth Holt.

He died like, uh, he had shot most of the film.

Mm-hmm.

transferred the brain yet by

then? No.

What happens is – here's where they're at.

They've done the prison break and they've gotten the body from the professor ready.

And they're about to do the first part of that.

And so this is a scene that was added in later.

But there are some parts of it that do make it work.

Well, here's, uh,

The Works Escorts, right.

Yeah.

Four editions.

And when he first went to Boreham to start that book in 1975, '76, they had a, a little cupboard and it was, they didn't write, at Boreham, they didn't write everything down on a big memo sheet, that car, et cetera.

It was just bits of paper thrown in a drawer.

And he had a week down there sorting through and trying to correlate it all so he had something of a resemblance of a book.

When it sold so well, and when he went back a year, 18 months later, it had all been thrown out to do edition two.

Why Escorts?

I think kiss of the vampire would have been even better if he was the Dracula or sorry, if he were the vampire cult leader in that, instead of that random, you know, blonde haired dude.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It would have been a bit random.

I mean, actually, I don't, I don't know.

I don't necessarily consider his performance uneven here, I think, but there is a, there's a little bit of trivia about this.

But they don't gotta be safe.

That's how the relationship was for me.

Yeah.

What's funny is that she brings the Basil guy in there, and she's having, like, a f- does his fortune, and she says, like, she starts, like, acting like all, all, like, uh, unhinged.

And she's like, "There's n- there's nothing left for you but death." And then she's all laughing.

And then the son comes in there, and he's like, "They'll be punished for w- you know, for what they've done." You know, says they'll all be punished, and she just cackles and does all kinds of crazy stuff.

But it's, uh, it's funny that in order to, to get the revenge, the, the Hasmid guy could just come in there and kill the dude.

He's right there.

Yeah.

What about you, Dave?

So yeah, so I got that same set.

Um, this is the fifth Dracula film.

It's the fourth one with Dracula in it.

If you...

The Brides of Dracula didn't have, have it in there.

But, um, so that's how I first saw it, and I saw I think most of them.

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