Dave Rupert

You're listening to another one of our 700 episodes of the Shop Talk Show.

I'm Dave Rupert.

With me is Chris Coyier.

Hey, Chris, still on that treadmill?

That's nice.

Then it feels like a little bit of an upgrade to what I was doing before.

But yeah, it's not like the pounds are melting off, Dave.

No, I can say from firsthand experience, adding about a mile or so plus walk to your day does nothing.

You're listening to another episode of the Shop Talk Show.

I'm Dave Rupert.

With me is Chris Coyier.

Hey, Chris, how are you doing today?

But what, what about now? Like how do you [laughs]

No, you're...

Dave's alive.

What's a good metric, or how do you figure it out? Or do you care anymore? Like it still matters, doesn't it? It's like you feel like you made this design system, isn't, uh, uh, the success of that design system in a sense is how well it's adopted.

You're listening to another episode of the Shop Talk Show.

I'm Dave in the Shed Rupert.

With me is Chris in his home office square.

Hey, Chris, how are you?

Well, it's been too long.

I mean, I don't.

So how's your back, Dave? Yeah, that was back pain episode.

Oh, yeah.