Okay.

So what this effectively does is going, "Okay, relationally you're doing pretty good.

Physically you better take care of yourself, buddy.

Something's not going on r- right there.

Mentally you're okay.

Spiritually you're starting to drift a little bit 'cause you didn't journal yesterday," and that's one of the practices I have to do.

Now, literally this takes me, like, four minutes just to draw that out.

They're just as important.

What are some ways that exponential will help equip people to multiply in a challenging context?

Yeah, let me say a couple of things.

One is So you need to experience exponential and the experience itself will help.

And here's why I say that.

And to be honest with you, John, I don't even know if I'm an organization in every national network that shows up as a part of one of our exponential conferences because we do this one here in the Bay Area.

We do another one in Chicago, and then we have a global conference in Orlando.

There's like a grace on it.

Can you talk a little bit about that process of maturity and how does it take place that somebody ultimately becomes a multiplier themselves?

... is, "I hate church."

Right, and so you wanted to start your own thing.

This, the, the micro churches that we're seeing now aren't like, "I hate church and so I'm gonna do my own thing, me and a few other people here." But instead, there's very much a clear missional purpose.

There's a clear group they're going after.

But then also, like what, what, for example, with Kansas Underground, there's hubs where these actually come together to support one another, encourage one another, alert one another, and to make it more sustainable.

So who...

I think the missional focus is different than what maybe back in our day, back in the day that kinda soured you on the idea of a house church.

Right.

... is "I hate church."

Right, and so you wanted to start your own thing.

This, the, the micro churches that we're seeing now aren't like, "I hate church, and so I'm gonna do my own thing, me and a few other people here," but instead there's very much a clear missional purpose.

There's a clear group they're going after.

But then also, like what, like, for example, with Kansas The Underground, there's hubs where these actually come together to support one another, encourage one another, alert one another, and to make it more sustainable.

So who...

I think the missional focus is different than what maybe back in our day, back in the day, that kinda soured you on the idea of a house church.

Right.