Dave Emory

But, like, so you basically get all these slop personalities, and then, yeah, how do you sift through all this bullshit if you're developing a kind of nascent interest in it right now, and find people that are actually doing, like, rigorous work? Like, in a way it was maybe a little bit easier in, like, the 2010s when the, like, the, the field was a little more paltry and there were, like, some real dedicated old-heads that were ...

You know, I'd find people like Dave Emory or-

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... then I found out about Mae Brussell, then I found, like, Recluse's old, amazing old blog, Visop, that he was writing since, like, 2010 that had-