Dave Doeren

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So if they won four na- national titles all of the sudden, and Dave Doeren was getting into, like, Kirk Cinatti title, saying like, "Oh, if NC State can win in football, anybody can do it," like, just the thought of that would, would repulse me.

Uh, winning four consecutive would make Dave Doeren... [laughs] It would put him on the Mount Rushmore of college football coaches.

Saban.

[laughs] Saban, Dave Doeren.

[laughs] Yes.

Bear Bryant, Saban, [laughs] insert any name, and Dave Doeren.

Probably Cinatti.

We're g- we, we might get down to, like, a p- paper, rock, scissors tiebreaker, but I, I wouldn't wanna put my hopes on that.

Um, I talked to Dave Doeren last night.

You know, he was more optimistic about this team than I think a lot of people feel like he should be.

He said after the Vanderbilt game, C.J. Bailey got up in front of the team and apologized for what was obviously a boneheaded play.

Mm.

Because they're like, "Yeah, is, is this your first time? We've been dealing with, 'Oh, no, we're only gonna win seven or eight games forever,' since, like, the last decade." And their fan base is just sort of, I, I, resigned at this point, where the big conversation is, "What do you do with Dave Doeren?" They still think that they've got a, a team that's capable of winning five or six games in the ACC.

You know, having their, their requisite eight and four type season, going to a decent bowl game, and then restocking and doing the entire thing again.

And that doesn't have them overly excited.

I, I wanna say, like, woe is me.

It, it, it's just sort of a I feel like we're going through the motions type fan base, and that's kind of understandable, Trev.

I know, it's just gotta eat you up, 'cause with the Eari-Doeren comparisons, because I know how much you hate [laughs] Dave Doeren.

I don't-

You wouldn't take that? No, 'cause right now I take a lot of pride in the fact that NC State really has nothing going for them as, as a school.

[laughs] So if they won four na- national titles all of a sudden, and Dave Doeren was getting into, like, Kirk Cinciotti title, saying like, "Oh, if NC State could win in football, anybody could do it," like just the thought of that would, would repulse me.

Uh, winning four consecutive would make Dave Doeren... [laughs] It would put him on the Mount Rushmore of college football coaches.

Saban.

[laughs] Saban, Dave Doeren.

[laughs] Yes.

Bear Bryant, Saban [laughs], insert any name, and Dave Doeren.

Probably Cinciotti.

I promise it's going to be okay." Which signals to me and the Louisville fans listening to this that of course the vibes aren't great.

And what can you tell me about Dave Doeren's standing after four games? Obviously the two losses have been brutal in different respects.

Is this a situation to where it's like a game-by-game, um, kind of temperature check with, with Dave Doeren? They keep winning, he keeps his job.

If they start to snowball and lose, maybe he's out by some point mid-season.

Like, what's, what, what's the, what's the take there?

At some point in time potential has to be realized.

Or as some people say, potential has to be fully potenced at some point in time.

And, and right now it just once again appears that we're, uh, you know, headed for a Dave Doeren special of somewhere between 7-5 and 9-3.

Here's another tricky one

... is there any, is there any fight in, in the fighting Dave Doeren's left? I don't think so.

Here's another tricky one.

BYU going into TCU.

I want to look at it from just kind of the, the storyline from the Virginia perspective of this because we saw Virginia start the year off really strongly with, you know, beating what we thought at the time might be a pretty decent NC State team.

Uh, you know, Dave Doeren thought, certainly thought that they [laughs] could get to 10 wins this season.

That's not gonna happen.

But I, I think w- at the time we thought that was really impressive.

It's over.

Uh, Dave Doeren at North Carolina State.

Um, he's been, uh, been there for 14 years.

There were thoughts that maybe he was gonna retire at the end of the year.