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Dave DeFour

Podcast host and basketball analyst at The Athletic; hosts the Athletic NBA Daily show and provides NBA commentary with emphasis on coaching and analytics.

Jul 2, 2026

5:21
Mm-hmm.
5:22
Um, a, a lot of this is just that's, that's the way that the job works.
5:26
So you are gonna sometimes look worse.
5:28
But i- the, the bigger thing to me is he makes so much money, and he's got an extension that's coming up, right? No one wants to pay that.
5:37
And especially I think when you look at the new Celtics ownership and the private equity, uh, influence there, I, I think that that plays a hand in that.
5:47
People don't wanna, they don't wanna be in the tax, and definitely not in the repeater tax.
5:51
I mean, LaMelo Ball got traded because they don't wanna pay that next contract.

21 MINS LATER

26:39
Your good take.
12:01
Good point.
12:01
But they did adjust over the course of the playoffs.
12:03
A- and I think, like, one of the reasons why they would get behind against the Thunder is 'cause the Thunder would adjust immediately to the whistle.
12:10
And I, and we saw the Spurs, they were just a little bit slow.
12:13
A- again, this is where experience really does matter, is understanding the flow of the game and how they're gonna be called.
12:19
You should know...
12:20
In the first five minutes, you should know what the whistle's gonna look like.

44 MINS LATER

56:15
Completely different player
29:26
Yeah.
29:26
And Joel Embiid, when he was healthy this year, was fantastic.
29:30
So, um, it, that, losing the series, okay, yes, it's, that stinks, but to do it in such a desperate way in game five.
29:43
I understand that Neemias Queta could not guard Joel Embiid at all, but you just went away from...
29:49
A- and Jayson Tatum was out of the lineup.
29:51
But you had success without Jayson Tatum all year.
29:54
You, you know what I mean? Like, you gotta kinda stick a little bit to your principles.

16 MINS LATER

45:40
Yeah
7:30
... you know, can allow Denver to be a potential team that upsets the reigning champions.
7:36
Yeah, you know, the tanking thing and the player health thing are not...
7:40
They're not completely separated.
7:43
You know, you look at the Pacers.
7:45
They, they lose one of their, one of their key players, uh, to an Achilles injury in game seven of the finals.
7:51
They lose Myles Turner in the off-season to the Bucks.
7:54
Okay, they- they're like a misfortunate team that's having...

16 MINS LATER

23:39
... where it's just like, he doesn't miss these.

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