You know, my friend, Derek Doerner, and Buzzy Kerbox, and I developed that technique kind of, you know, to, to be able to get pulled onto giant waves, and that changed, I mean, that makes that giant wave in Portugal rideable.
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Eric HubermanHOST
21:56
Yeah.
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Laird HamiltonGUEST
21:56
That makes these unrideable waves rideable.
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