Darren Jones
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Sep 10, 2026
Sophy RidgeHOST
What's changed, uh, since yesterday morning is the political response, right? And it is really building.
Sophy RidgeHOST
Darren Jones, former Chief Secretary to the Treasury, for example, has written to the Prime Minister calling for a new multinational treaty on AI.
Sophy RidgeHOST
Multiple politicians are now speaking out about it, um, but I think the question is, can the UK do anything? [laughs] Probably not.
Sophy RidgeHOST
The other, I think, very, very significant story that has emerged, um, yesterday or overnight is that Anthropic didn't submit the latest model of Claude to Britain's AI Security Institute for testing before release.
Wilfred FrostHOST
Yeah, the only thing I'd add to that is I, I don't think it's an increasing nationalization.
Wilfred FrostHOST
This is a US versus China race.
Wilfred FrostHOST
As you say, um, I'm not sure what the UK exce-- you know, if Darren Jones can write a letter, good for him.
Wilfred FrostHOST
Sorry, it's not gonna make a difference.
Niall PatersonHOST
And when we are talking about a technology that is emerging at different rates in different parts of the world, that does suggest to me we perhaps do need some kind of global treaty.
Niall PatersonHOST
In fact, Labour's Darren Jones is calling the, the Prime Minister to pursue, you know, international treaty on exactly that.
Rowland ManthorpeCORRESPONDENT
Yes.
Rowland ManthorpeCORRESPONDENT
And really we need two kinds of treaty.
Jamie EastHOST
This week has also seen a senior employee at Anthropic estimate that there is a greater than 10% chance that AI could kill all humans in the next 10 years.
Jamie EastHOST
Not entirely surprisingly, this has alarmed people, including Keir Starmer's former right-hand man, Darren Jones, who told the BBC that it's time for a new international treaty to establish safe rules for the development of artificial intelligence.
Darren JonesSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
We shouldn't be preventing innovation or scientific endeavor.
Darren JonesSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
I think that takes us to the pre-Enlightenment period.
James KitchenHOST
It's after a British researcher who'd spent three years working at Anthropic and other AI companies quit the industry because he claimed they are gambling with people's lives and human existence.
James KitchenHOST
Darren Jones, who was chief secretary to Sir Keir Starmer in Downing Street, has written an open letter to Andy Burnham and the United Nations calling for a multinational treaty for AI's safe development.
Darren JonesSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
It's not just one person that left Anthropic.
Darren JonesSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
I mean, Anthropic themselves have been saying this for a while.
MayaHOST
She suggested they might be part of a public relations strategy as anthropic and open AI prepare for stock market debuts.
DanielHOST
Meanwhile, Darren Jones, a former UK government official, has called for a multinational treaty to ensure the safe development of AI.
DanielHOST
The Financial Times reported that Anthropic withheld its latest AI model from the UK's AI Security Institute, though the company declined to comment.
MayaHOST
Hubinger emphasized the lack of a clear plan to align AI with human values, a concern echoed by other industry leaders.
Anne McElvoyHOST
[laughs] Well, you know, that, that does show that this is quite complicated, and I, I, I think that's one of the reasons it didn't get further under Keir Starmer, but maybe he would, uh, like to get in touch and, and tell us.
Anne McElvoyHOST
Um, playbook hears that some Keir loyalists, yes, they are still there, uh, drowning sorrows, uh, gathering at the Clarence Pub on Monday for back to school drinks with Darren Jones and Steve Reed, uh, doing the inviting and the money behind the bar, maybe.
Anne McElvoyHOST
I wonder if it felt like a bit of a political séance, although it is of course described as an informal chance to catch up after the summer.
Anne McElvoyHOST
But, uh, yeah, a few were still feeling either you'd been unfairly ousted in Starmageddon or, and I do catch this actually still from some MPs, that they, they have a slightly guilty feeling about the way, uh, that he was treated in the end.
Wendy HallSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
But how a human being can make a f- [laughs] statement about our company has a ten percent chance of killing off the human race, why would you want to say that? Why would anyone work there if they genuinely think they could be responsible for killing off the human race?
Chris VallanceCORRESPONDENT
The Labour MP Darren Jones, formerly number 10 chief secretary under Sir Keir Starmer, has written to Andy Burnham arguing it's time for multinational action.
Darren JonesSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Governments have to come together, whether it's through the United Nations or through a G seven or G twenty format, whatever it is, to collaborate about what this treaty-based development of superintelligence should look like.
Chris VallanceCORRESPONDENT
Whether AI will achieve superintelligence is still debated, but concern has been heightened after a summer in which a string of AI agents carried out cyberattacks during tests of their hacking abilities.
Cleo WatsonHOST
Or they're not going out straight away and causing problems.
Cleo WatsonHOST
Do you remember when Andy Burnham came in, he did his reshop, he immediately had Darren Jones criticising pledges that he was going to make.
Cleo WatsonHOST
And, you know, what we're about to get onto is how schools back, Burnham has not governed yet with Parliament sitting and how MP handling...
Cleo WatsonHOST
It is tricky and it takes up a lot more time and headspace than you'd like.
Tim StanleyHOST
Mm.
Camilla TomineyHOST
Again, anyone with any common sense would look at them and go, "Well, you're, you're fibbing and making it up." We have that then interspersed with kind of lefties like Darren Jones, the former chief secretary to the treasury, saying that most of the people on the boats are women and children.
Camilla TomineyHOST
Again, the public is incredulous.
Camilla TomineyHOST
Well, that's not how it looks to me.
Christopher SnowdonPANELIST
Now, that was supposed to be a huge crisis.
Christopher SnowdonPANELIST
That was crashing the economy, blowing up the economy, as Darren Jones said on Twitter this week.
Christopher SnowdonPANELIST
So what is it? What do you call it? 5.3%.
Christopher SnowdonPANELIST
And this is the question.
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