Darby Orcutt

We had Mariah Mayer, who did a great presentation too.

And of course, um, Darby Orcutt, his presentation, 'cause he's a, he runs a genetics project at, at North Carolina University, and he's, I think he's got s- 24 researchers on it now, uh, which is exciting, A, that it's a university project, and B, that he's got such a robust team behind him.

He sort of project manages them.

And, and the headlines for me, and it's very early days yet, he's doing a big DNA analysis based on hair samples that have been sent to him.