Daniel Westerman

Yeah, and I think that's absolutely.

And as a leader, I learned this from Daniel Westerman when I was working at AEMO and looking at the messages he was sending to people.

So back when I was at Macquarie some time ago, it was all like, work harder, go harder, all that sort of stuff.

And inevitably, people were burning out everywhere.

AEMO are having a briefing where they're going to talk about all these high-level things.

It's with Daniel Westerman, from memory, who's the chief there.

So, if you want to really dive in and understand some of the machinations and some of the consequences of not only of the way the market operates currently and the kind of swings and roundabouts and, you know, there's hedging and there's generation and there's transmission and there's capacity payments and all all these other mechanisms in place to try and ensure that we have reliable, cheapest possible power, but also how that's transitioning.

And so, you know, jump on the AMO website.