Daniel Stenberg

But then you have the issues with Photopea, for example, that if you're open source, that people just clone your stuff anyway, and then you get even more requests.

Or when we had, uh, Daniel Stenberg here on the show, when he says, like, he closed all resources because pe- he gets, like, 6,000 pull requests for curl a day that are AI generated nowadays.

So that's like moving a, a dark matter code into the open source world.

This is force, brute forcing it.

That's basically job done for an engineer, as you can verify it right away." And they had a few more.

[chuckles] I did notice that they included Da- our old friend Daniel Stenberg of cURL fame.

Uh, he was quoted saying, "We use all the state-of-the-art tools available to us to search for problems and strengthen our products and, and thereby hopefully keeping the world a little safer.

OSS Scanner has helped us find multiple issues in cURL worthy of addressing, including one of the worst cURL vulnerabilities reported in the last few years." So we know that he was upset for a while, uh, and he's begun to, to seem like he's a little c- c- you know, coming back toward w- willingness and openness to automated vulnerability solutions.

That's basically job done for an engineer, as you can verify it right away." And they had a few more.

[chuckles] I did notice that they included Da- our old friend Daniel Stenberg of cURL fame.

Uh, he was quoted saying, "We use all the state-of-the-art tools available to us to search for problems and strengthen our products and, and thereby hopefully keeping the world a little safer.

OSS Scanner has helped us find multiple issues in cURL worthy of addressing, including one of the worst cURL vulnerabilities reported in the last few years." So we know that he was upset for a while, uh, and he's begun to, to seem like he's a little c-c- you know, coming back toward w-willingness and openness to automated vulnerability solutions.

Here's what pushing back looks like.

Daniel Stenberg leads Curl, open source software that moves data inside an enormous range of products.

Its bug bounty paid out more than a hundred thousand dollars for eighty-seven confirmed vulnerabilities.

Then Stenberg measured what was arriving.

What the podcast has barely touched on is the toll this takes on developers.

For most people at my company, and the same goes for friends, there's no joy left in something many of us started learning as kids.

Leo is excited about his agent cluster and what this technology makes possible.

But for those of us who love the process rather than just the end product, it's a real blow.

Now they're saying, "There's no le- there's no interaction left." You just say, "Write this," and, you know, it churns away and out comes code.

I'm totally sympathetic.

I have friends in that exact, uh, boat.

You...

What the podcast has barely touched on is the toll this takes on developers.

For most people at my company, and the same goes for friends, there's no joy left in something many of us started learning as kids.

Leo is excited about his agent cluster and what this technology makes possible.

But for those of us who love the process rather than just the end product, it's a real blow.

You just say, 'Write this,' and, you know, it churns away and out comes code."

I'm totally sympathetic.

I have friends in that exact, uh, boat.

You...

That's basically job done for an engineer, as you can verify it right away." And they had a few more.

[chuckles] I did notice that they included Da- our old friend Daniel Stenberg of cURL fame.

Uh, he was quoted saying, "We use all the state-of-the-art tools available to us to search for problems and strengthen our products and, and thereby hopefully keeping the world a little safer.

OSS Scanner has helped us find multiple issues in cURL worthy of addressing, including one of the worst cURL vulnerabilities reported in the last few years." So we know that he was upset for a while, uh, and he's begun to, to seem like he's a little c-c- you know, coming back toward w-willingness and openness to automated vulnerability solutions.