Wow.

Fair enough.

I mean, I'm not, I'm not drug trafficking, so I guess I'm not doing things that are terribly, terribly dangerous.

And then there's also things like, yeah, you should go to Greenland and speak to the locals about eating whale and killing whales.

I think you should do it yourself.

Like, I think everyone should just go and do it themselves and see how it really is, and then assess.

Because it is uncomfortable, right? You go, and you-- they put it on the plate, and you're like, "Oh, I feel weird about this, but why do I feel weird?" And then you kind of uncover it, right? So you can judge all that stuff all you want, but it's better to go put yourself in that uncomfortable situation and kind of realize and uncover this for yourself.

That's great.

There's just something up there that is constantly speaking to every one of us.

Yeah, you're totally right.

We forget.

I think it's because we live such digital lives because everything is on the phone.

And there's a part of my travel inspiration that I try and hand to people.

And I'm working on a book at the moment, and this is what the book will be about.

And it's put the phone down.

Oh, my God.

Wow.

Fair enough.

I mean, I'm not, I'm not drug trafficking, so I guess I'm not doing things that are terribly, terribly dangerous.

And then there's also things like, yeah, you should go to Greenland and speak to the locals about eating whale and killing whales.

I think you should do it yourself.

Like, I think everyone should just go and do it themselves and see how it really is, and then assess, because it is uncomfortable, right? You go and you ...

They put it on the plate, and you're like, "Oh, I feel weird about this, but why do I feel weird?" And then you kind of uncover it, right? So you can judge all that stuff all you want, but it's better to go put yourself in that uncomfortable situation and kind of realize and uncover this for yourself.

But in terms of do the spirit to get out there, what would you say to that person?

There's just something up there that is constantly speaking to every one of us.

Yeah, you're totally right.

We forget.

I think it's because we live such digital lives because everything is on the phone.

And there's a part of my travel inspiration that I try and hand to people.

And I'm working on a book at the moment, and this is what the book will be about.

And it's put the phone down.

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