What was this all about? Was it merely spectacle? Is that where they saw the parallels?

Largely so, I think you're right to say that spectacle is the attraction.

I mean, through the lens of Lenny Riefenstahl's camera, and let's not forget she was a hugely influential and magnificent filmmaker, but as I think you're alluding to, compromised for her... with leading figures of the Third Reich, a complicity in atrocities that happened and use of actors that went on to be gassed, I believe, at Auschwitz camps.

I think you pronounce it T. Flandex from that film, and saw an atrocity herself in Poland.

But what she was capturing on film that we see in Triumph of the Will is actually the brilliance of Hitler's architect, Albert Speer.

Again, a Nazi in denial of... knowledge of the persecution and eventual annihilation or attempted annihilation of Europe's Jews.

He was in denial for most of his life, but it became obvious and clear, not least because of the historian Gita Sereny, who discovered his knowledge but what speer was brilliant at and what we see at nuremberg is is theater and he created theater he creates the in the hundred foot golden eagles in the um the the use of flags the positioning of uh of members of the nazi party the staging of hitler and speakers etc etc all of that is the mind of of of of a theater magician in many ways And what I see in rock and roll is many artists admiring what they see through music.

What do you make of this? The silence from the critics and the audiences.

What was this all about? Was it merely spectacle? Was th- Is that what they, where they saw the parallels?

La- largely so.

I think you're right to say that spectacle is the attraction.

I mean, through the lens of Leni Riefenstahl's camera, and let's not forget she was a hugely influential and magnificent filmmaker, but as I think you're alluding to, compromised for herUh, involvement with leading figures of the Third Reich, a complicity in, uh, um, atrocities that happened and use of actors that went on to be, uh, gassed, I believe, at Auschwitz, um, in, I think you pronounce it Tiefland, extras from that film, um, and saw an atrocity herself in Poland.

Uh, but, but what she was capturing on film that we see in T- in Triumph of the Will is actually the brilliance of the, of Hitler's architect, Albert Speer.

Um, again, a Nazi in d- um, in denial of knowledge of the persecution and uh, and eventual annihilation or attempted annihilation of Eu- Europe's Jews.

He, he was in denial for most of his life, but it became obvious and clear, not, not least because of the historian, Gitta Sereny, who, um, discovered his knowledge.

Uh, what, what do you make of this, the silence from the critics and the audiences?