Daniel Pearl

Like, I'm about...

I'm, I'm a little younger than you are, almost the same age, but we remember Daniel Pearl, right?

Yeah.

I mean, y- Judah Pearl's been on my show as well.

actually cut those guys' heads off? Who? What? Those videos back, you know, when I was like nine years old.

So Daniel Pearl, I thought, I

assumed Daniel Pearl was just a spy and they're lying.

You know, like Khashoggi, they want you to feel bad about.

Fuck that shit.

That guy's a spy.

He's not a real fucking, fuck you.

but but daniel pearl i found out i found out yo i found this out i don't even know how much i said about how the guy told me because he was really nervous about but so he's the guy that told me that you know we left all our equipment for the taliban and we said we disabled it but we didn't

Mm.

The horror happened, and more horrors happened after 9/11 that KSM claims to be involved, the beheading of Daniel Pearl, the Bali bombing, the shoe bomber.

I mean, it, you know, uh, he claims he was involved in all that.

Um, and then to sit down with him after over a decade to get the opportunity, uh, and know the mission is to get as much out of him, but like you say, uh, you don't wanna be seen as like, uh, he's, you know, we're buddy buddy, and yet they did share war stories.

And I, the local person didn't care.

So I flew down there and was there for the first weekend and then learned where Daniel Pearl, who was a- Daniel Pearl was held by Al-Qaeda.

And I remember clearly, my fixer said, you want to see the video? And I said, no.

And because I...

What I did, I learned down there that he was, and when the whole world knew, was that he was slaughtered, he was beheaded, and they went from there with Daniel Pearl.

And he said, my grandfather was Jewish, my father was Jewish, my mother's Jewish, I'm Jewish, and then they killed him.

And...

Yeah,

Yeah.

You think about Daniel Pearl ... could show, like to where we are now

Yeah, and it just, it just, there wasn't this, like, the enemy, the media is the enemy of the people rhetoric.

Right.

I, I believe that.

Apparently when this, when that thing happened, Rosie's response was like, "Why would you do that?" Like, what if Daniel Pearl's parents-

Mm

... saw that?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I've, and Daniel Pearl was the journalist who was-

Right

We think about Jamal Khashoggi.

We think about Daniel Pearl.

We think about people who are reporting the truth.

And and, you know, it's it's it puts them on the front lines and and the safety that is or is not involved with that.

I'd, I'd lost a friend to terrorism in third grade.

Um, uh, my writing hero, Danny Pearl, was killed after 9/11.

Oh.

I had really, um, been shaken by what was happening to the world, and started out wanting to wipe the adversary off the playing field.