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Daniel J. Pilla

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Sep 15, 2026

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And I know you talked about this briefly a moment ago, but get into what you hope people take away from this particular piece that you have in National Review,
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Dan.
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Well, there's two key points there regarding this piece on National Review right now.
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Number one is take a look at audit revenue in 2025.
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And the leftist Democrats panicked and said, look, this revenue is down in 2025, and it has to be because the IRS lost 20%, 25% of its workforce in 2025.
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And so there's a direct correlation between the reduction in IRS employees and their ability to collect money.
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And the conclusion that I came up with by looking at the totality of the numbers is you can't come to that conclusion at all, John.

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So why does this interest you so much?
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For instance, you can refile your 1040, you know, you can do things, you're not locked into the loss if you find out you missed
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something.
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Absolutely.
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And it's not a matter of stirring up the IRS, Gary.
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It really isn't a matter of stirring up the IRS.
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It's a matter of taking advantage of all of the legal opportunities and the rules that are in the tax code.
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I'll just give you the simplest example.

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As far
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So tell us just again what that topic was.
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Yeah, I talked about the 15 most common problems that small businesses make in dealing with the IRS in general and financial issues in particular.
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I could tell it wasn't your first day out.
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No, it wasn't, and we keep learning.
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And so I focused on not just new businesses, Gary, but businesses that are existing and running now that don't necessarily understand or are being tripped up by some of the fine points of dealing with the IRS.
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I believe that was on, on, on something that you had, uh, that you had discovered.
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Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right.
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In fact, I got two pieces on National Review very recently.
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Uh, and the first piece talks about the IRS's chat bots and their AI systems that have been set up to help taxpayers solve problems, right? So the IRS gets a- about 70 million phone calls a year, John, to its help centers, and those phone calls are from people that are trying to comply with the law.
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They are, they are folks that need help filling out their tax return, understanding the tax laws, understanding whether they should zig or zag with respect to this particular transaction.
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These are folks that are looking for help paying their taxes.
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And the, uh, treasury inspector general for tax administration, TIGTA, did an analysis of the IRS's responses to these questions and, and particularly with respect to the chat bot, and they find that the, the chat bots are not consistently accurate in providing information to taxpayers that they're looking for.
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Hate to hear it, but yeah, it's true.
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So tell us just again what that topic was.
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Yeah.
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I talked about the 15 most common problems that small businesses make in dealing with the IRS in general, and financial issues in particular.
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Yeah, right
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... that are existing and running now that don't necessarily understand or are c- being tripped up by some of the fine points of dealing with the IRS.
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So tell us just again what that topic was.
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Yeah, I talked about the 15 most common problems that small businesses make in dealing with the IRS in general, and financial issues in particular.
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Yeah
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...
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but businesses that are existing and running now that don't necessarily understand or are c- being tripped up by some of the fine points of dealing with the IRS.
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So tell us just again what that topic was.
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Yeah.
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I talked about the 15 most common problems that small businesses make in dealing with the IRS in general, and financial issues in particular.
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Yeah, right
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...
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but businesses that are existing and running now that don't necessarily understand or are c- being tripped up by some of the fine points of dealing with the IRS.
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So tell us just again what that topic was.
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Yeah.
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I talked about the 15 most common problems that small businesses make in dealing with the IRS in general and financial issues in particular.
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Yeah
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...
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but businesses that are existing and running now that don't necessarily understand or are c- being tripped up by some of the fine points of dealing with the IRS.
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So tell us just again what that topic was.
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Yeah.
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I talked about the 15 most common problems that small businesses make in dealing with the IRS in general, and financial issues in particular.
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Yeah, right
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...
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but businesses that are existing and running now that don't necessarily understand or are c- being tripped up by some of the fine points of dealing with the IRS.
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So tell us just again what that topic was.
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Yeah.
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I talked about the 15 most common problems that small businesses make in dealing with the IRS in general and financial issues in particular.
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Yeah, right
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...
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but businesses that are existing and running now that don't necessarily understand or are c- being tripped up by some of the fine points of dealing with the IRS.
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So tell us just again what that topic was.
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Yeah.
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I talked about the 15 most common problems that small businesses make in dealing with the IRS in general, and financial issues in particular.
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Yeah, right
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...
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but businesses that are existing and running now that don't necessarily understand or are c- being tripped up by some of the fine points of dealing with the IRS.
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So tell us just again what that topic was.
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Yeah.
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I talked about the 15 most common problems that small businesses make in dealing with the IRS in general, and financial issues in particular.
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Yeah, right
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...
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but businesses that are existing and running now that don't necessarily understand or are c- being tripped up by some of the fine points of dealing with the IRS.
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So tell us just again what that topic was.
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Yeah.
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I talked about the 15 most common problems that small businesses make in dealing with the IRS in general, and financial issues in particular.
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Yeah, great
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...
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but businesses that are existing and running now that don't necessarily understand or are c- being tripped up by some of the fine points of dealing with the IRS.
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So tell us just again what that topic was.
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Yeah.
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I talked about the 15 most common problems that small businesses make in dealing with the IRS in general, and financial issues in particular.
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Yeah, right
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...
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but businesses that are existing and running now that don't necessarily understand or are c- being tripped up by some of the fine points of dealing with the IRS.
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So, Dan, walk us through your book, Salt and Light and the Christian Foundation of America.
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Well, yeah.
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And let's talk.
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Let's talk some basics here before we before we get even get into the book.
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Yeah.
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One of the central premises of Marxism, when they start to move in on taking over a nation, is they want to and they work very hard to eradicate that nation's history.
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Now it doesn't make any difference if it's a Christian nation in the West, whether it's a Buddhist nation in the East.

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And then
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That's what I love about this story the most, by the way, because this is like your initial hero story, I guess.
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Yeah.
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This is why I wear a cape, Dustin.
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So anyway, when I was in the courtroom in Minneapolis that day, The courtroom was packed with a bunch of people that were my dad's tax protester buddies.
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There was probably 100 people in the courtroom and I'll bet 95 of them were associates, friends of my dad that also had tax problems because they were following these tax protester arguments.
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Now, the problems didn't necessarily start with the tax protester arguments, although in a lot of cases they did.
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Many people had an IRS problem because they couldn't pay And then they gravitated toward the tax protester arguments as some means of solving their problem because nothing else seemed to work.

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Right.
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But that still doesn't explain to us, if, if the $27,000 house in today's money is worth $176,000, how'd it get to be $550,000?
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Well, I think the short answer, Joe, is the fact that the dollar's gone to hell.
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I think the single biggest explanation for what you've just described is inflation.
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And by inflation, I'm not talking about rising prices.
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Rising prices is a consequence of inflation.
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Inflation is the process of infusing additional purchasing power into the marketplace where there's no relative increase in productivity.
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Only the government can do that, and more specifically, only the federal government can do that, 'cause only the federal government has the authority to print money.
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Why would they wanna do that?

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