Daniel Coyle

It's really good.

But Daniel Coyle, the Irish writer, is on that, and he talks a lot about how he struggles.

He's struggled in school.

He has a lot of trouble reading and writing.

me not being so much of a track and field person and not working with a lot of track and field athletes, the one thing that it seems to have, and all sports have this, but they all have this, this vastly different cultural influence.

Um, and so, uh, the, the one thing that, that popped in my head was, you know, if anybody's ever read the book, um, the sports gene by david epstein and he talks about why is it that all of the best sprinters in the world are coming from this little patch of jamaica and what is it about that and he did a deep dive into that but what is it about what let's let's talk a little about culturally what you see in the cultures that seem to have what um they call these talent hotbeds, as Daniel Coyle talked about in Talent Code.

What are some of these things that you see? Is it like nurture or nature when you're going through these situations and seeing these hotbeds of talent within your sport?

I think both.

I mean, I was very interested in always in organizations, society, the country, how we make sure that we live up to our own best selves, so to speak.

I'm relating the part about meaning to something that Daniel Coyle wrote a few books on culture.

And he has a book called The Culture Code.

And there are three particular ingredients that go into high performing cultures.

You build trust, safety, and ultimately how you create a culture of flourishing.

Yeah, it's something I write about in the book that's coming out, that idea of Daniel Coyle's culture code.

And exactly what you just said, safety, vulnerability, and it has to be practiced.

It has to be valued.

Thank your teammates.

And I go back to the Greg Popovich thing that Daniel Coyle talks about in the Culture Cove, where Popovich would say, hey, thank you for letting me coach you.

Thank you for letting me coach you.

I mean, here's these guys that are making more money than him, even more money than the coach.

It has been clear to me that there are set points in people's lives that set points, not in tennis, but in our lives of making a certain income.

And if you look at any of the work that Daniel Coyle did in Talent Code, which was excellent, he talks about the three things that break people through a specific set point into a new level, which is training from a master, deep practice, and then that hot cognition, that emotional click that goes all the There was a baseball player from the island of Curacao who went on to go hit two game-winning home runs off a New York Yankees pitcher in a World Series game.

And then the next year, that Curacao island produced the first of like 13 consecutive top-performing Little League World Series teams in Fairfield, Ohio.

Daniel Coyle Talent Code is a phenomenal book that tells that story.

We've got some friends that live locally here, a guy named Kevin Franson who played for the Phillies and also for the Giants.

And then one of my very best friends, Mark Leonard, who was a slugger for the Giants and played with, I think he was Will Clark's roommate at one point.

So the advice trap.

The second one by Dan Coyle is called The Culture Code.

um i think probably my top leadership book uh that i've ever read um you know there's the same culture eat strategy for breakfast um and i found that to be true over and over and over again and what coyle does in this book is instead of viewing culture as this amorphous thing that does or doesn't happen in places, he actually talks about how you create it.

What are the little things that you as a leader can do to start creating feelings of belonging, to start creating value, to start creating the culture that actually leads to better results.

And I think that...

Dan Coyle, Kate Murphy, Nedra Glover-Tawab are all remarkably good at that.

The ability to make complex information accessible is a true talent.

And everybody you mentioned is good at that.