And

I felt like I was standing on that back porch with him to a certain extent, to be honest with you.

It was an experience rather than just watching a video.

I remember standing there as I listened to the footage and watched the footage and You know, Jim just happened to be out there.

He had no idea what was going on, and that was very obvious.

And he started actually getting, as we, I mean, the thing is it was actually happening, and we saw the second plane come in, and I got to hear Jim's reaction to the, when the second plane came in.

But even then, at that point, it was still just footage I had seen.

I mean, was it upsetting? Was there any kind of closure? Uh, what were you left with? If you don't mind telling us, uh, you know, on your feet exactly what the emotion was when you were done viewing this.

Jim

actually approached me, told me, you know, just gave me a little bit of an overview of what he had done, and I said, well, I'd love to see that.

But actually, to be honest with you, I said, yeah, big deal.

You know, when he told me what I was going to be looking at it, I said, I've seen all this footage a hundred times, I'm sure.

But, you know, for some reason, I told Jim I would take a look at it, and I sat down that night with my wife and it didn't take me but just a couple minutes to see that I hadn't seen this.

And what I saw, I'm not talking about just raw footage, the world's full of it, but what I saw was 9-11 through the eyes of an American.

And I felt like I was standing on that back porch with him to a certain extent, to be honest with you.

What was basically the feeling between you, and I want to ask this with your spouse as well, I mean, was it upsetting? Was there any kind of closure? What were you left with, if you don't mind telling us, you know, on your feet, exactly what the emotion was when you were done viewing this?