Daniel Caesar

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Daniel Caesar.

Andrew, you're awesome, and congratulations.

Thank you.

We can, we can, we can run on this together.

So I think, um, I saw Daniel Caesar perform live and he had, um, this really awesome choir.

I was like,

that's what we're lacking.

calling somebody a badass bitch.

That's Peaches by Justin Bieber featuring Daniel Caesar and Gideon, Josh Goodwin, Harv, Shnoto, and Andrew Watt, producers.

Josh Goodwin and Andrew Watt, engineers.

Colin Leonard, mastering engineer.

But I remember listening to a podcast and there's a reason why Martha's on this live video because it's independent.

These two guys who were producers and managing Daniel Caesar, like they are back now, but back then they are taking a break.

Matthew Burnett and Jordan Evans, right? So they spoke about the budget they had to use for radio and it was like in the hundreds of thousands of dollars to push the song with our best part because and there was the whole thing of like oh we are independent and we have this money but we couldn't we can't compete with radio and there's like there's a whole like map system of certain types of radios and now you have to break in some of these guys that was my point is they cannot compete with labels so the song has become culturally important and then they put money on it basically putting fuel to fire and that is what mr is talking about now i don't know how they disclose on american radios if songs is paid or not paid for or not but radio is part of budget usually or not usually when when radio is part of like some artist budget for a ton of artists right and they know that they want to take it to radio and they know their month that they have to attach baseline for them to take it to radio and if you are independent and that's what makes it interesting to me because what was the business decision there's an assumption but it even makes sense in my own head that i went to pay for an ad rather than pay for radio play why because like we've highlighted is independent so like most i can't compete with this because you might come with your hundred thousand dollars and you're like oh i'm going to play my song and then they're coming with labels are coming with like 10 other hundred thousand dollars of songs and more and more that's like what five ten is a meal And, like, you're just going to get sidelined at the end of the day.

So, yes, they do

Brent Fires? Brent Fires.

Daniel Caesar.

And who would be the last person that I've been listening to? Oh my God.

I think I've been listening to a lot of reggae lately.

I think people know the level of talent.

Daniel Caesar, shout out to Danny.

Like, the amount of incredible talent that we have now.

I think people finally get it.

Yeah, what a time.

And also you played Get You, Daniel Caesar.

Yeah.

We saw him live together.