Daniel C Malone

And so we've got overall data for how many visits we're conducting how many encounters we have with people through these ORCA programs.

But what I don't have in front of me is how many of those are at the ORCA center of people who were brought in or walked in versus how many happened in the field with ORCA pod.

But over the last 12 months, we've had 10,000 encounters with people.

And so... given that it's a, it's a 365 day a year program, that's 27 average of 27 encounters a day.

So that's a good segue into the thing I think we want to talk a little bit about next, which is the Star Center.

This is a downtown shelter that the ESC runs that kind of replaced the Navigation Center.

around 12th and Jackson, which is, you know, the intersection that we talk about a lot on this podcast that people complain about a lot.

A lot of people blamed the Navigation Center for at least some portion of the kind of open fentanyl use and drug sales and, you know, stolen goods sales and all that stuff that is, by the way, still going on there at 12th and Jackson.