So what's been happening in the last 10 years?

So we have this pattern of politicians or anyone who have any political motives using the LGBT card as a strategic tool for usually for the mobilization and political destruction.

And this maneuver is often referred to as moral populism, I guess.

frequently intensifies during election cycles or periods of economic and social unrest to consolidate support among the people and conservative voters in particular.

So this political gameplay leaves the community, the LGBT community, exposed to persistent online hate speech public harassment, systemic exclusion, but regardless of whether an active election is underway.

Regarding the patterns of hate, there are some key moments over the past decade, but this doesn't mean that Those I don't mention are not as urgent.

So we have this key moment such as in 2016, there's this organization called the Support Group and Resource Center on Sexuality Studies, SGRC.

So when we talk about the pattern of hate, you know, that's long-term, like you're saying, but it's having these peaks where it's become... politically useful or whatever i mean that that's what we're trying to understand as to why these things happen maybe it's a distraction i guess the big question which i have here is why do morality issues and debates have such social currency in indonesia why do they you know really spark responses