But other than that moment, Dan, what was your worst all-time moment working with water? Do

you know what? It's going back to when I was probably...

what 18 19 years old it was the first real bad experience with joe and you get the moments where it's just like oh no um i've got into this house and all that wanted with this customer they wanted me dad to be there like oh can you send can you send roger and they're like no no it'll be daniel like oh perfect do you know he's back then everybody wants you everybody wants the boss don't they yeah yeah so they got me didn't they so fresh face 19 year old me there so I'm there I'm doing going out of my way to try and like set a good impression do this and then as I'm changing all it was it was something really really simple it was just an isolated change and I looked down and bottom union on cylinder were leaking don't touch it don't breathe Yeah, I learned the hard way about that.

Don't touch it.

Don't touch it.

Don't say anything.

Just go.

Oh,

100%.

Um, and at the b- and I think that's why, for me, I, I, that's why stage payment is, is so, so important because y- you, it protects you, but it also protects the customer as well because they know what we're getting at what time and, and th- th- they know what, if a job's on schedule, or if it's not on schedule, it's not...

I think a lot of people think like stage paymenting is, is all to protect the, the, the, the, the, the tradesmen, but it's not.

There, there's an element that protects the customer as well.

[laughs]

Yeah.

I think it's, I think it's very d- and do you know what? It used to be, and then this, this is where things have, have all got a...

It, and, and it's, it's filtered down into the gas side of things 'cause there were always that division, wasn't there, between plumbing and heating, plumbing engineer, plumbers and, and heating engineers.

... of copper pipework at the minute, are you?

I, I, no, mate.

I, and d- do you know what? I ain't got any me copper, like, me pipe fitting stuff out today.

It's all the screws and glue today

... it's all just all the joinery.

I, I've, I think, I think we've been a multi-trade for forever, to be fair.