What w- actually went into getting the information that is now in this report? Um, who did you speak to? What-- Who, who did you reach out to?

Well, we had twelve hundred dads from across Australia speak to us.

It's a representative sample.

We made sure to actually get lots of CALD men.

We had Indigenous men.

We made sure to actually understand what is going on in their lives.

That's what we try and do at Movember.

What, um, do you want to see done federally, and what kind of support are you seeing federally at the moment?

Mm.

Same as what was happening a- and, and is still happening in, uh, Ukraine.

Um, our, our power prices were extremely high for a period there.

Because of that, we have seen some change and then we have seen them come down a bit now, which is good, and the wholesale price has actually came down by quite a lot.

So that is filtering through to households now.

But there's also a lot of other cost of living measures that we've done.

We've done the cheaper childcare, the cheaper medicines, like locking in at the PBS for $25 or $7, $7.70 I think it is if you're on a concession card.

Mm.

Can you walk us through what the plan is?

So what we're doing is we're getting around, we're talking to people all around the country in this space, Ged and I, having conversations and really listening, listening of what we can do.

Because if we, if we knew how to fix this and knew what we needed to do to fix this, it would've already been fixed.

It would've been fixed by previous governments.

It would've been fixed years ago, and then you wouldn't have Ged's position.

You wouldn't have my position.

These positions would- wouldn't be needed.

Are you worried about that?