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Dan Nolan

Budapest-based award-winning journalist, author and broadcaster covering Central and Eastern European politics, media and culture.

Jul 29, 2026

RaphHOST
18:27
They still have to have some pre-training
18:29
done.
18:30
Yeah, you can't go from, like, I've got a model that I've trained on, you know, the Merriam-Webster dictionary, and turn it into something that can produce CSS.
18:36
But you can take...
18:37
And this, again, like Thinking Machines, I think, which is one of the other big labs run by Mira Mirati, who I believe used to be the former CTO of OpenAI...
18:44
They released an open model that's been called Thinky that people have been talking about, but they said they distilled from one of the, I believe Kimi, not K3, but one of the other Chinese models and said that again, what they used is like the reinforcement learning harness.
18:56
So where this gets a little bit weird is a lot of these labs that are producing these models are using other open source models as part of the reinforcement learning process.

7 MINS LATER

RaphHOST
25:46
that was in defence of open source, because basically it's been kicking around the traps that will the US government ban open source AI models effectively?
18:27
They still have to have some pre-training
18:29
done.
18:30
Yeah, you can't go from, like, I've got a model that I've trained on, you know, the Merriam-Webster dictionary, and turn it into something that can produce CSS.
18:36
But you can take...
18:37
And this, again, like Thinking Machines, I think, which is one of the other big labs run by Mira Mirati, who I believe used to be the former CTO of OpenAI...
18:44
They released an open model that's been called Thinky that people have been talking about, but they said they distilled from one of the, I believe Kimi, not K3, but one of the other Chinese models and said that again, what they used is like the reinforcement learning harness.
18:56
So where this gets a little bit weird is a lot of these labs that are producing these models are using other open source models as part of the reinforcement learning process.

7 MINS LATER

25:46
that was in defence of open source, because basically it's been kicking around the traps that will the US government ban open source AI models effectively?
10:44
So what's, what's Mogyor's relationship to, to that kind of, uh, economic stand?
10:51
Well, that's...
10:51
I mean, that is very interesting because that, that's right.
10:55
There's been a lot of Chinese investment, uh, Korean investment.
10:59
There's a BYD, uh, factory which is pretty much ready to go in Szeged in South Hungary.
11:07
There's a, a cattle battery plant in Debrecen too.
11:11
And, um, and there's a lot of balls in play that Mogyor will now have to deal with.

6 MINS LATER

17:20
What do you, what do you make of the state of the debate, uh, over the course of this election and, and its aftermath?

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