How do you deal with that? How do you, how do you teach her the right thing? Like, what do you say to her?

We just say, [laughs] "No, it's, you- you're not, you're not ready for it yet.

Like, you don't wanna see what's going on." We just complain that it's hard for us.

Like, look at us.

We're always, like, we're on our phone too much, and we won't be on our phone.

Like, people could get, contact us all times.

Like, it's like working now, like, anyone could text you at any time, and you just respond.

Like, you need to, like, do, try a bunch of, y- you need to grow, and that's another college sort of chunky... [laughs]

You tap the relevant statute.

Exactly.

Well, there you go.

Home in time for tea.

So if one comes from the basis that negotiations are only relevant if the ground has been set.

And I don't mean that people have done their homework on the subjects that they're negotiating.

I mean, do both parties, and especially does the more powerful party in what is a deeply asymmetric between Israelis and Palestinians in this instance.

And I went away and I started wondering to myself, was that a set of perceptions that you had at the time? Or is that something that you came to on reflection?

Oh.

Yeah, I mean, I think being an actor and and writing for actors, I just have an understanding of what an actor wants and needs from a show to feel like they want to get involved.

Television is always a little bit more intimidating for actors, particularly, you know, like veterans like Laurie and Elizabeth, because it's not a film.

And it's not a play that ends after a certain period of time.

It's a commitment that could go on for several years if you're lucky.

So for me, it's always about approaching those actors with...

The season arcs, what we're going to be expecting from them, where I see the characters going, where I hope that they could bring their voices and work to elevate the characters that are on the page, and then also where those characters are going.

You had just thought of the idea of a sequel.

As if it was a gift that the world was in a giant shit storm.

Yeah.

I, I mean, I do, I do wonder what...

if it hadn't all clashed together, what the response would've been because I think much like what you probably get with Ted Lasso, I have people coming up to me on the street all the time saying like, "Your show saved me from COVID.

Your show made my dying mother feel happy before she died." Like, you get really kind of unbelievably meaningful things from people because you were there for them in moments that mattered, and I think the collective sort of sadness of what COVID was, to be there, I don't know if Schitt's Creek would have had the same trajectory had there not been...

I mean, there's 72 million television shows now.

The show had finished by the time that COVID hit.

Mm-hmm.

Daniel was an Israeli negotiator during the Oslo Accords in the '90s and early aughts, and as such, he spent a lot of time thinking about Israel's borders.

First of all, unusually, Israel does not have defined borders.

It has peace agreements with Egypt and Jordan, so those borders are actually defined, the Egyptian and the Jordanian border with Israel.

But when it comes to Syria, for instance, Israel annexed illegally, uh, Syrian territory after the 1973 war, after the '67 war.

Later on, it annexes the Golan.

So that border is in dispute with Lebanon.

Uh, Israel is right now, as people will know, deep inside Lebanese territory, but it normally focuses on Greater Israel, so that's everything that is recognized as Israel today, plus the West Bank, plus Gaza.

Stretching from the sea to the desert and the Jordan, the Jordan in the middle." Ze'ev Jabotinsky, founder of the Revisionist Zionist Movement.

Hmm

... with Green Day, Offspring, Bad Religion, all of those music, Rancid, Operation Ivy, the music that I really listened to and only listen to even today.

But before that, I was kinda like, I don't know.

I was, like, influenced by my cousins in Florida.

I was just kind of, like, going with the flow, and in that moment of time, Informer was a very exciting song and really got me going.

Was-

... can't do this, but if you want Burns in posts, there is the famous viral video that was, like, one of the first viral videos where that guy lip synced to this song and proposed to his girlfriend in Portland.

And he did a whole sort of, like, dance.

Oh, yeah.

And seeing a level of glamour that I would never see on the day-to-day in Toronto, Canada.

This is not to disparage the style of Toronto, but you just don't have, at the time at least, we didn't have...

I wasn't exposed to anywhere near that kind of glamour and style and fashion, the boldness of it.

So I think my earliest memories of, of looking at people and thinking, "Gosh, that's fabulous," is actresses.

Mm.

And so the stylist is now, um, procuring a look and putting it on the client.

But in the process of brand identity preservation, it's almost in a way removing the ability to style.

the Gaza war?" Um, you know, do you feel that that is a, a reaction in Britain, you know, that that is a mindset?

Well, I think the more one runs-To say there's an attack on Golders Green, you shouldn't be allowed to protest against Israel, against Israeli policies, against what it's doing.

I think that encourages the mindset because I think it genuinely suggests that people aren't taking antisemitism seriously.

If you're taking antisemitism seriously, you speak to providing for the wellbeing of the Jewish community, and this is a community in Britain.

This is not...

Uh, but sorry, just to, to say that, you know, I don't think people should equivocate in taking seriously these attacks and that they need to be addressed.

I don't think people should equivocate about taking seriously that Israel is in violation of international law, has been committing war crimes, and there should be steps on those.

You know, do, do you think their messaging is, is, is what's feeding that?

Like, what is it about, um, uh, getting Iran out of the picture, or at least, or, or removing its capacity, uh, that is so crucial to Israel?

So first, let's just acknowledge this has its antecedents in, uh, projects that Israel tried and, and, and got over, over time, historically, various elements of buy-in from various US administrations.

So folks may remember or may not, uh, when Netanyahu comes to power in ninety-six, he works with, with a, a bunch of neocon hawks in the US, uh, Richard Perle and others on a strategy for the clean break, which is to remake the Middle East.

That's where part of the Iraq, uh, obsession, uh, comes in.

But just parking that historical bit right now.

In terms of what, um, what you asked, uh, which I'm now struggling to remember.

Uh, but yes, he is-- it is a version of, of trying to, um, do a Donroe Doctrine in the region.

Um, one, what do you make of this? A-and if you could expand on why the US dollar, um, p-pegging itself to, uh, oil and gas into energy is so important to US worldwide financial dominance and what it could mean if some of these Gulf countries, traditionally under our auspices, um, move towards trading, uh, in Chinese currency.

Yeah.

I'm a, I'm a less anxious person than I am now, and I, I do actually think at the core of the show, it's an, it's an examination of what we inherit, what that kind of ancestral trauma that kind of trickles down from, in this case, like, matriarch to Laurie to the kids.

The, you know, the f- very first scene of the show, Nona is dying, and she's a yeller.

And then you instantly see that this yelling streak has just found its way through three generations of this family.

[laughs]

... because I've been gone too long.

And I think the more that the hometown changes, the less you can relate to it.

Like, I was just in, I just came from Toronto yesterday night, and I look around, and it's, it's just not the place that I grew up in.

How do you practice that?

You just have to shut it out and care about the story you're telling.

You know what I mean? Like, you know more about the story you're telling than anyone else.

You know why a character should do something or say something or make the decisions they make, because it's a guttural, instinctual thing.

Like, so for an audience who's like, "Gosh, I really hope they stay together," sometimes it doesn't benefit the character for them to stay together.

It benefits the audience.

But if you earn it, that choice...

... you just saying that just now-

You decide.

Anyway, not, no offense to professional card readers.

Not quite sure what you have to do to legitimize yourself in that way.

But he would, every Sunday, he used to live in New York before moving to Paris, he would read friends.

And so the web of friends kind of grew because, you know, he would read me and then I would recommend a friend, and a friend would recommend a friend, and it sort of became this like little community of people-

[gasps]

... that are like ...

My friend turned me on to them.

I mean, what's your general sense of, of what demand's gonna look like here?

Well, the interesting thing about demand in the US is it's been actually really resilient.

If you look at the average price of new vehicles today, it's roughly $46,000, and this is with all of the questions on the health of consumers.

If you actually look at last year, not only did we outperform on price, but we outperformed on volume as well.

That 16.3 million unit sales last year was above what we had done in prior years.

So we've actually seen a very resilient set of volume and price, which has been a surprise.

The question really is, is how long that can sustain.

For the parts makers, at what point do you start getting concerned about the rise in cost of inputs, whether it be plastics or even metals?

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And they don't even clearly delineate that it is the 80s.

They don't put like a, a graphic up to say like 1980.

And the kid like, goes away.

But the way, the way the movie goes, it would've made more sense if like, Dice was like, "Hey, the radio called.

They need you to be over at the radio station to sing the single right now, 'cause it's popular."