Dan Hallett

Yeah.

So, It's interesting because at a conference where I was earlier in the week, I was part of a discussion between Dan Hallett and myself.

And one of the things I said is that we would have to review our business models, just going back to what you said earlier.

And then someone asked me, but why am I saying that? And I think it's because, I don't know, some of these things are still questions in my mind.