Dan Green

Like you had to seek out, you had to...

Like Dan Green was like, "I went to competitions to ask these dudes in person, 'How the [laughs] fuck did you get your deadlift so big?'"

Yeah, where it's like, like the idea of like, like, you know, I don't know, like if lifters presumably if were like averaged out and they have not gotten that much better despite there being all this stuff, right? It's like I wouldn't be like that...

It, it's not an idea that's like, "Whoa, that's, how is that even possible?" 'Cause I'm like, yeah, people aren't like...

I am fit.

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What's up, guys? Welcome back.

Oh, shit.

I don't know what I'm supposed to say.

[laughs] What's up, guys? Welcome back to Large Lads, episode 27.

I'm not gonna lie, the hiatus this time was my fault.

So I'm really big in terms of my knowledge base.

John Meadows and Dan Green, power lifter.

world-renowned bodybuilder rest in peace john meadows isn't with us anymore but when you look at what they do there's no reason why that power lifting type of programming or power building really because dang green is enormous he does a lot of hypertrophy work a lot of bodybuilding work and when you take that type of programming and you just say hey instead of bench press i'm literally just going to plug in weighted dips or weighted pull-ups it works shockingly well And I think in that regard, when it comes to people reaching a plateau, I think they'd be a lot better off in the first place if they were following more foundational programming.

What I found is with calisthenics, people treat it like it's this amorphous thing that we have to treat differently.

I want you to expand on that because if we only do calisthenics, we can run into some symmetry problems where the torso gets hella developed, but then the delts, the arms, they can be lagging.

How do you like to include that weak link type of stuff into a program? Do you put it at the end of a pull or push workout, or do you prefer having a dedicated arm day or isolation day?

I've tried it both ways, and I keep coming back to the way Dan Green and John Meadows lay out their upper-lower programs, where when you do your push, you do your pull, and then you work shoulders and arms.

That's pretty much how I do it.

Like when did social media become a thing? So like if we're counting Instagram and YouTube, we're sort of saying, hey, this doesn't happen before 2012, right? What also came out in 2012 was the boom of raw lifting.

But the interesting thing is that raw lifting first peaked with the Dan Green era, the raw unity.

IPF was late to the party.

And the untested raw scene was the first big, big movement of the social media era.

real quick

yeah

just i think people in the current era forget how much or just weren't even alive or or like on the internet how much of a change the initial raw boom was like Raw Unity, Dan Green, Lilla Bridges, Larry Wheels, all of these power lifters who were in the mid-20 teens, they exploded the scene.

It was also right when social media was really kind of taking off in something similar to its modern form.

Three main things.

One, everyone saw Dan Green and Mark Bell in the super training videos, and that was the coolest thing ever.

Uh, I wouldn't say that was the main appeal, though.

That's more of like, "Oh, that's awesome.