What do you ascribe that to? Is it as simple as there's still a hangover from 24, that Republicans won the big one, so to speak, the presidency, and there just isn't that sense of urgency?

I think there's two factors at work here, Matt.

The first is that Trump has brought into the political arena a whole group of voters who have never, never really, maybe not even thought of or enjoyed or trusted voting before, okay? They never felt they really, these were marginalized people who never felt they really had anybody to vote for.

They didn't feel there was a difference between the parties.

They didn't, They weren't hearing from anyone who really addressed the issues that they were concerned about.

And Trump brought them in, and it was a seismic shift.

He upset everything.

stuck to their guns like Justin Murphy instead of prevaricating and perseverating and apologizing over the course of this midterm cycle, I think the GOP would be better in shape today.