Dan Carter

What celebrity? Who did you see?

So he's a, you know, local, but Dan Carter.

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah.

Love that.

You don't expect Dan Carter to have to buy dog food, do you, Abby?

No, I feel like that should be run through the

What celebrity? Who did you see? So he's a, you

know, local, but Dan Carter.

Yes.

He came, so I was working at a pet food shop at the time.

Yeah.

Love that.

You don't expect Dan Carter to have to buy dog food, do you, Abby?

No, I feel like that should be run through the

did mum do, Sian?

She was, I think, at like a pub or something, and she ran into Dan Carter and had an argument with him saying he's too short to be Dan Carter.

Oh, no.

Oh.

Oh, God, that's five minutes too long.

That is mortifying.

There's only so long Dan Carter can argue that he is Dan Carter.

Yeah.

There's been a few golden generations, but that one specifically, you know the team that I'm talking about.

You're Dan Carter, you're Ma Nonu, you're Richie McCores, you're Kieran Reeds.

Icons of the game, right? So when the All Blacks went back-to-back versus this South Africa team that went back-to-back and that potentially could go for the three-peat.

And this is why it is the greatest rivalry, right? Because you've got the two best teams, the two most successful teams in World Cups.

Um, Zach and I, so yeah, I think learning from some of those guys, Andrew Duratalo, Shalom Suniola, um, guys that have been around the circuit for a long time and knew what was going on and how to perform, but also them having your back, allowing you to make mistakes and not being up your ass straight away is super important for any level of rugby.

One of the things I like to say is that it doesn't matter if you're Richard McCaw, Dan Carter, Johnny Wilkinson, some of the best players of all time, every single person who's ever played the game started in the same spot.

they didn't know how to play.

Someone had to teach them how to play.

I'm a big NBA fan and just kind of the great players like Michael Jordan or LeBron James, Kobe Bryant.

I think I studied like Tom Brady a bit too and in rugby like Dan Carter, Richie McCaw and trying to understand the mindsets of great players and there's a lot of them in basketball that you can really dig your teeth into.

Huge fan of basketball.

That was my foundation sport.

natural I guess instinctual self that actually just flows and lets the game happen where your self one gets in the way sometimes because you're overthinking it and I'd say my self one when I'm standing behind the kick is too active right now

so I'm

trying this like role playing that I think the author's Galloway he speaks about in the inner game of tennis is like imagine that you were Serena Williams how would she feel when the ball is coming at her and she's about to make a hit, and she would feel confident, and she would feel like she knows exactly where this ball's going, and there'd be no hesitation, and so you kind of, by pretending to be someone else, you quiet the self-won overthinker, and you kind of just channel what the feeling would be like, and how you expect them to feel, and you, I guess, kind of artificially create confidence through that, so I've been trying to pretend that I'm Dan Carter standing behind the kick, and How would he feel in those moments? And so that's something that I've been working on a lot in terms of skill acquisition.

That's so cool.