Dan Amos

And we were up against 15 or 16 other agencies.

And after they all left the room, I said to the CEO, Dan Amos, who I adore, I said, honestly, you're giving me this tons of information.

What keeps you up at night? Which is a great question to ask clients because they'll give you the most reactive and strongest and truest answer.

And he said, actually, even my relatives can now remember the name of my company.

Oh, my God.

I just love that.

No, you know, it's interesting because all the famous people that you've come across and the big shots and the executives and the CEOs, so many of the men.

I mean, the fact that you have the stones, I use that term lightly.