Dallas Buyers Club

It's, it's hard for me to understand beyond his own narcissism and his own sense of self and id and ego and all of that, uh, what exactly Jared Leto is trying to figure out through the roles that he plays, uh, the majority of them.

Perhaps as Rayon in Dallas Buyers Club, he was really trying to figure out what life was like for somebody like Rayon, who is a partic- who was a particularly, uh, unique and original character, uh, to be portrayed s- specifically at that time when that film came out, especially I should say, not specifically.

So, um, these artists all fascinate me, and their motivations fascinate me as well, especially when I think about what we're doing here and why we're doing it, as we're thinking about what stories we're gonna be telling in the new year.

You know, artists create to better understand the world around them.

... that really u- it's like an unsettling-

Oh, he was in Dallas Buyers Club

... a really unsettling combination.

Yeah.

Um...

What drives you, getting inside another person's head, like how you developed Rust Cohle in True Detective, or the pull of a story worth telling, like how you talked about Ron Woodroof in Dallar- in Dallas Buyers Club?

Well, ideally, I'm in, I'm in a great character and a great story, but give me the character.

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