Are you able to draw the line between what they're experiencing right now and the people that are causing the angst and the problems?

Let me tell you, we had a meet and greet two weeks ago and everyone in that group, not everyone, 95% of the people in that group were over 60.

They, for the first time, I saw people that I know are complete pumpers.

For the first time, when I said something about $7 a gallon diesel fuel, I saw heads shaking.

And I thought, there, there is a crack right there.

There is, I mean, this isn't black and white and red, for that matter.

I mean, you know, they're having to deal with this.

Where'd that come from?