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Cyclically adjusted price-to-earnings ratio

Cyclically adjusted price-to-earnings ratio

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Sep 28, 2026

Edward DowdGUEST
28:16
It's literally one trade, and it's at valuation levels we haven't seen since the dot-com boom.
Edward DowdGUEST
28:23
Many metrics, the Buffett indicator, the pillar, the Shiller PE indicator, and our own proprietary NASDAQ valuation.
Edward DowdGUEST
28:33
So stock market, you're guaranteed to make 0% over the next 10 years if you put your money in the stock market.
Edward DowdGUEST
28:40
That's what the math tells us.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
56:31
What's the question I'm asking? Is that a really low number? And relative to at least US market history, 5% to 6% risk premiums are at the higher end of the spectrum, not the lower end.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
56:45
So for better or worse, when people use the word bubbles with U.S. stocks, and that's why I don't buy into the Shiller-Cape and all those other short-term metrics that people can use, hey, stocks are overvalued because the Cape is 25.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
56:59
Cape might be 25, but I'm looking at the equity risk, which reflects a risk-free rate in your choices, and it looks
Aswath DamodaranHOST
57:04
like it's not 1999 to me.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
61:34
What's the question I'm asking? Is that a really low number? And relative to at least US market history, 5% to 6% risk premiums are at the higher end of the spectrum, not the lower end.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
61:48
So for better or worse, when people use the word bubbles with U.S. stocks, and that's why I don't buy into the Shiller-Cape and all those other short-term metrics that people can use, hey, stocks are overvalued because the Cape is 25.
Aswath DamodaranHOST
62:01
Cape might be 25, but I'm looking at the equity risk, which reflects a risk-free rate in your choices, and it looks
speaker_2UNKNOWN
62:07
like it's not 1999 to me.
Adam ParkerGUEST
4:18
Yeah, I think multiples and margins are really correlated.
Adam ParkerGUEST
4:20
So if you're a CAPE or a Shiller PE or a Grantham, all you're really saying is gross margins for the S&P 500 are going to get creamed in the next year or two.
Adam ParkerGUEST
4:27
To the extent that we have big companies with higher margins, of course the market trades at a higher multiple than it did in the past.
Adam ParkerGUEST
4:34
And if you get carried out in a three- or four-year review or less, if you start using that, a Shiller PE, you would have missed the last year.
Adam ParkerGUEST
4:43
100% in the S&P or whatever, or more.
Kate MooreHOST
4:45
That's totally right.
Aswath DamodaranSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
4:32
And to be quite honest, through this century, this entire century, most of those metrics have failed.
Aswath DamodaranSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
4:40
Starting with the traditional CAPE, the P-E ratio, the Shiller P-E in markets, you shouldn't invest in stocks if they traded a P-E above a certain number, 16 or 18.
Aswath DamodaranSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
4:50
You'd have been out of stocks since 2012.
Aswath DamodaranSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
4:53
Take a look at your portfolio and ask yourself what your portfolio would have looked like if you hadn't bought stocks for the last 14 years, if you had put your money in cash.
Jason HartmanHOST
18:24
Yeah.
Jason HartmanHOST
18:25
You look at the Buffett indicator, the CAPE ratio, whatever you want to look at, PE ratios in general.
Jason HartmanHOST
18:30
Everybody will say that, although how long can they keep kicking the can down the road is anybody's guess, but nobody would argue that the stock market's not overvalued, right? Ultimately, investing, as is everything in life, comes down to life's most important question that I always talk about on my show is compared to what? Income property doesn't have to be as good as it was It just has to be better than everything else.
Jason HartmanHOST
18:54
And I think it's got that mantle.
Eli BreeseGUEST
7:52
I was looking at the study the other day.
Eli BreeseGUEST
7:53
Anytime the Shiller Cape ratio is above, I hate to say the wrong data point, I wanna say it's above twenty, twenty-one, twenty-two, the four percent success rate drops to about seventy-five percent.
Eli BreeseGUEST
8:05
And our current Cape PE multiple is sitting at about forty, which is the equivalent of the dot-com bubble, meaning the four percent rule currently has a zero percent success rate at current valuation multiples of the market.
Eli BreeseGUEST
8:17
So yes, you're right.
Joel LitmanGUEST
30:03
yes.
Joel LitmanGUEST
30:04
And so if a PE under Cape Shiller looks like 40 and the earnings number is 50% lower than an apples to apples comparison, suddenly you're at 20.
Joel LitmanGUEST
30:14
And that's about the math.
Joel LitmanGUEST
30:16
That's about the math.
Callum WilliamsonHOST
0:02
I'm your host Callum Williamson and what are we talking about today? The topic is to infinity and beyond.
Callum WilliamsonHOST
0:09
Well that's the headline either and what we're going to be discussing are the Cape Shiller Index, cycles, markets and why time in the market beats timing the market all the time.
Callum WilliamsonHOST
0:20
So an anecdote or a story to help visualize it or set the scene, lay the foundations using SpaceX and SpaceX's IPO in June 2026.
Callum WilliamsonHOST
0:30
So it's the largest IPO in history and there was a lot of FOMO, a lot of fanfare, a lot of sentiment around it.
Callum WilliamsonHOST
2:53
And then again, just basic markets looking at the S&P 500.
Callum WilliamsonHOST
2:56
We had a large 20% correction due to something Donald Trump did in one day, and then it came back.
Callum WilliamsonHOST
3:02
So when it comes to looking at the markets, where are we right now? The Cape Shiller ratio as of 6th of September is at 41.
Callum WilliamsonHOST
3:10
Now, what is the Cape Shiller? That is cyclically adjusted price to earnings ratio.
Joel LitmanGUEST
30:03
yes.
Joel LitmanGUEST
30:04
And so if a PE under Cape Shiller looks like 40 and the earnings number is 50% lower than an apples to apples comparison, suddenly you're at 20.
Joel LitmanGUEST
30:14
And that's about the math.
Joel LitmanGUEST
30:16
That's about the math.

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