Curtis Emerson LeMay

It will prevent, by the way, an invasion.

Everybody at the time, from Curtis LeMay to Eisenhower to MacArthur, said, no, we don't need to drop a bomb.

But it was to show Russia that,

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Well, that's my point.

It's just like I feel like I'm hearing someone saying, I wish we could hang out.

It's just like I could go and talk to Curtis LeMay.

Yeah, it's great.

He didn't want it.

And then during the Cuban missile crisis, which was just a year in 1962 as well, the Air Force General, General Curtis LeMay, openly clashed with Kennedy in the cabinet room.

saying that one of the naval blockades was as bad as the appeasement of Munich.

And he wanted, you know, immediate airstrikes.

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will later.

The NATO Secretary General, the British head of MI6, the commander of the US Indo-Pacific Command.

This is US, by the way.

Meanwhile, You know, there's probably the Dark Fleet and all that other history of the off-base Germans and stuff like that that were there and interacting with these other beings.

Well, what's an interesting side note there, too, I think it might have been from the Sands of Time material, but Curtis LeMay, I don't remember where I heard it.

And once he found out that we weren't given jurisdiction on the moon, like that we they weren't allowing us to come back, you know, so they were actually setting up roadblocks.

So we couldn't accomplish the prime directive because prime directive, you have to get there on your own.

So they actually were stopping us from doing that.

And so that's whenever... effectively he Curtis LeMay and whoever threatened to nuke the bases on the on the back side of the moon and because we had advanced technology and eventually we were allowed space up there acreage land whatever property on the moon and we're allowed to build a base there but it was At that point, because it wasn't just Curtis LeMay threatening who was on the back side of the moon, which were potentially Germans, but also extraterrestrials.

Therefore, a lot of the extraterrestrials started seeing humans as a threat because we're threatening to nuke their bases on the back side of the moon if they don't give us land, property.

So it all depends on how you look at this, who the bad guy is.

Based largely on Nichols' targets, the Air Force dropped massive amounts of conventional explosives and napalm that destroyed an estimated 85 percent of all buildings in North Korea.

General Curtis LeMay later estimated that the bombing killed 20 percent of the North Korean population.

That's nearly two million people.

And that devastation is a historical trauma that still fuels North Korean state paranoia and its nuclear program today.

They waited out, uh, General Shoup.

They waited out Curtis LeMay, who were two strident opponents of intervention in Vietnam.

Mm-hmm.

So they just waited till their terms were up, and then appointed yes-men to replace them.

A history.com article on the Manhattan Project.

An Atomic Heritage Foundation article by Paul Tibbets and Curtis LeMay, Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki 1945.

And a PBS article, which was a letter from Albert Einstein to FDR, which came out on August 2nd, 1939.

All of our sources, as always, will be linked in the description of this episode.