Cranmer Hall, Durham

... that's why I do what I do.

I lead a, an MA program in theology and ministry at Cranmer Hall at Durham University, and we have a BA program as well-

Great

... um, where we welcome, uh, laity and clergy from all denominations to come learn with us how to love God with your strength, with your soul, but also with your mind.

I want you to be a minister, bizarrely.

And there's a bit of context in that because I had been at Durham University and I had quite a few friends who were at Cranmer Hall, which is another trade institution.

So there's a bit of context in that it wasn't a bizarre thing to think, but it still was.

And so I just had this real sense that it was a not yet, but at some point, but go out and do whatever you want to do.