Council on Social Work Education

I have been so impressed in the work that we have done with groups like CAPE.

like ACWEP, like CSWE, the groups that are going out and accrediting the actual programs in this space, I'm seeing the exact same thing.

They believe in this work.

They believe in making it more equitable.

I would say that the conventional wisdom is, and maybe what you're saying is that it's not an easy truth.

That's an easy falsehood, right? Like there is a lot of chatter out there that the creditors are in the way of affordability because of, for example, and I'm not talking about the, the regional, the former regional creditors or the institutional creditors, but you're right.

CCNE, ASEN, ARC, CAEP, AQEP, CSWE, that alphabet.

All those