Cornelius Plantinga

I wonder if you can just kind of speak to how common that might be.

Yeah, Cornelius Plantinga, one of my favorite forgiveness quotes, Cornelius Plantinga said, anyone who brings up forgiveness scares up a lot more rabbits to chase down than they can catch.

Because just the topic of forgiveness comes up.

and questions go darting off into the brush.

What does this one add to your story?

So this book, again, a lot of words and fun name, not the way it's supposed to be, colon, A Breviary of Sin by Cornelius Plantinga Jr., This book with a kind of a frightful theme actually unlocked the first two chapters of the Bible to me in terms of the concept of Shalom.

So not the way it's supposed to be as a line, it's actually title of a movie that's a classic movie that I really enjoyed that really shows The brokenness of sin and death is pervasive.

And yet our story did not begin with the fall.

So you can look and grieve sin.

What was his name? Cornelius Plantinga, I want to say, wrote it.

Yeah.

Not the way it's supposed to be.

But I was talking in there about the... anger and frustration that people were feeling that was venting in that way.

But I used this word vandalism because I was referencing a Cornelius Plantinga book that I really like called Not the Way It's Supposed to Be, Abbreviary of Sin.

And he talks in that book about...

The vandalism of shalom.