Cordell Hull
Former United States Secretary of StateWikipedia
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Nov 2, 2026
Thomas777GUEST
That's not just, that wasn't just some campaign trail neologism that, uh, Mr. George Herbert Walker Bush coined in, you know, 1988, '89.
Thomas777GUEST
It, uh, it, it, it w- it w- conceptually, it was, it, it, it, it owed, uh, its origin to, uh, you know, the, the writings of, uh, of Cordell Hull and, uh, Henry Morgenthau, who's, you know, an ominous character who we We, uh, we've discussed in earlier episodes, as well as Justice Frankfurter and Justice Jackson, who we're probably not gonna get too much into this episode.
Thomas777GUEST
But my point is that, [sniffs] um, the idea of an old world order, um, which was the, uh, emergent with, uh, you know, kind of the, uh, the, you know, the, the, uh, not just what's known as the Enlightenment era kind of in, in, in, in commonly accepted, uh, court history, but also like the Age of Exploration, [sniffs] you know, and, uh, and, and kind of the, the, the conquest of the planet quite literally by European powers.
Thomas777GUEST
Um, what was implemented therein and, and how, how affairs were managed between states, [sniffs] you know, particularly matters of war and peace.
38 MINS LATER
Thomas777GUEST
Well, Morgenthau continued to advocate for the Morgenthau Plan throughout nineteen forty-three and nineteen forty-four, okay? And, uh, as time went on and Roosevelt's health began to fail, uh, Roosevelt's mind began to fail in large part.
Thomas777GUEST
And who had access to Roosevelt, um, really could expect, you know, kind of his, uh, his own policy initiatives to be greenlit.
Thomas777GUEST
Opposite Cordell Hull, or opposite, um, opposite Morgenthau was Henry Stimson, Secretary of War.
Thomas777GUEST
We've not talked a lot about Stimson, and I don't think Stimson was any kind of hero, but compared to his fellows, uh, in the Roosevelt White House, I think he was fairly admirable.
ThomasGUEST
And the the particularly the political concord between Washington and Moscow is what gave rise to, you know, the Nuremberg Tribunal and the lesser tribunals like the Dachau trials of the men of First SS, which is quite a bit lesser known than.
ThomasGUEST
nerve of proceedings but it was by no means a foregone conclusion that um that uh that that these kinds of you know quasi courts martial by by the allied authorities is what would you know conclude hostilities and and kind of say to set the foundation for the for the new world order you know quite literally and when i use the term new world order deliberately that's not just that wasn't just some campaign trail neologism that uh mr george herbert walker bush coined in you know 1988-89 it uh it it was it conceptually it was it it it It owed its origin to the writings of Cordell Hull and Henry Morgenthau, who's an ominous character who we've discussed in earlier episodes, as well as Justice Frankfurter and Justice Jackson, who we're probably not going to get too much into this episode.
ThomasGUEST
My point is that...
ThomasGUEST
The idea of an old world order, which was emergent with kind of the, not just what's known as the Enlightenment era kind of in commonly accepted court history, but also like the age of exploration, you know, and kind of the conquest of the planet quite literally by European powers, what was implemented therein and how affairs are managed between states, you know, particularly matters of war and peace.
34 MINS LATER
ThomasGUEST
Whatever we can say, I rely on Stimson a lot because for that reason, I believe we can take his testimony at face value.
ThomasGUEST
Okay.
ThomasGUEST
Stimson is particularly a concern because Cordell Hull, his counterpart in Department of State, had essentially taken on the Morgenthau view.
ThomasGUEST
Like, why, it's not entirely clear.
Horatio GouldHOST
year as well.
Horatio GouldHOST
Oh, Father of the United Nations, Cordell Hull, won in 1945.
Horatio GouldHOST
So he only got nominated.
Horatio GouldHOST
Fair play.
Josiah LippincottGUEST
We disempowered that peace faction by making crazy demands.
Josiah LippincottGUEST
Or FDR disempowered Cordell Hull while they're negotiating with the Japanese.
Josiah LippincottGUEST
They're like, well, we're not going to allow you to preserve your sovereignty in the Far East and you can't have a sphere of influence.
Josiah LippincottGUEST
You can be a vassal state of the Americans and the British and the Soviets, ultimately.
Josiah LippincottGUEST
We disempowered that peace faction by making crazy demands.
Josiah LippincottGUEST
Or FDR disempowered Cordell Hull while they're negotiating with the Japanese.
Josiah LippincottGUEST
They're like, well, we're not going to allow you to preserve your sovereignty in the Far East and you can't have a sphere of influence.
Josiah LippincottGUEST
You can be a vassal state of the Americans and the British and the Soviets, ultimately.
Paul McGannHOST
When they left the country in 1924, the Americans retained control over Dominican customs.
Paul McGannHOST
Sixteen years later, as the Dominican plenipotentiary in Washington, Trujillo agrees a new payment plan with American Secretary of State Cordell Hull, one that will restore economic sovereignty to his country by paying off the outstanding balance.
Paul McGannHOST
Exactly where Trujillo finds the money to do so is a mystery.
Paul McGannHOST
But over the past few years, thanks to some deeply corrupt investments back home, he's become a man with extremely deep pockets.
Tom DupreeHOST
Hull.
Tom DupreeHOST
Cordell Hull Lake.
Tom DupreeHOST
That's part of the Tennessee River.
Tom DupreeHOST
Damned up.
CraigHOST
To abandon them would be to admit failure and dishonor.
CraigHOST
Now, negotiations between Secretary of State Cordell Hull and Japanese Ambassador Kichisaburo Nomura had begun in April of 1941, and they would come to represent the final futile attempt at peaceful resolution.
CraigHOST
The discussion stalled immediately over fundamental incompatibilities.
CraigHOST
Japan insisted on retaining Manchukuo and refused to fully withdraw from China.
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CraigHOST
The Japanese military had sought to deliver a formal declaration to the United States government before the attack commenced, intending to present the operation as military action in response to American economic aggression and unwillingness to negotiate, rather than a sneak attack.
CraigHOST
However, a combination of bureaucratic delays and decoding complications prevented the Japanese diplomatic note from reaching American officials until the assault had already begun.
CraigHOST
The Japanese ambassadors, Nomura and Kurusu, were scheduled to deliver the message to Secretary of State Cordell Hull at 1 p.m. Washington time.
CraigHOST
which corresponded to about 7.30 a.m. in Hawaii, just as the Japanese aircraft were launching their assault.
Jay DyerHOST
And these are the secret councils that speak to and give policies to presidents.
Jay DyerHOST
At this time, Secretary of State Cordell Hull was the chairman of the IAG Advisory Committee, and this was under under with under our secretary sumner wells who's a relative of the asters thus there was a vice chairman advisory committee set up all these people were the members of the cfr and would give policy to the president then we get uh the special subcommittee for example in 1944 the dumb barton oaks conference which set up the UN, was done in collaboration with the IAG.
Jay DyerHOST
40 CFR members were present with delegates in the 1945 San Francisco Conference where the charter was written for the UN.
Jay DyerHOST
This included the director of John Hopkins University, CFR President Isaiah Bowman at that time, President of the Carnegie Endowment, James Shotwell, CFR co-founder, future secretary, John Foster Dulles, governor of New York, Nelson Rockefeller, future president of the World Bank, John McCloy, secretary of the UN, and U.S. special political affairs, Alger Hiss.
Swami KriyanandaSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
I, uh, try to be truthful on all levels as much as you can, but don't fall into the pit that some people fall into of, uh, uh...
Swami KriyanandaSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Well, there was this, was it Cordell Hull? I forget who it was.
Swami KriyanandaSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Some, uh, man who worked with Franklin Roosevelt, who was so much a stickler for facts that one time he was riding on a train and, uh, somebody looked out the window and said, "Oh, there, that flock of sheep on that hill have been, have, they're, have been shorn." And he looked out and he said, "Well, on this side anyway." [laughs] [audience laughs] If you're that careful, you'll just never get anywhere.
Swami KriyanandaSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
Try to understand that there's a higher reality and cling more to that, and then try to let it filter down as much as possible on this level.
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