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Copernican Revolution

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Sep 10, 2026

Doug LisleHOST
26:08
This is the most meaningful revolution in understanding of anything.
Doug LisleHOST
26:15
The only thing equivalent would have been the Copernican Revolution.
Doug LisleHOST
26:19
where we understood, oh my gosh, we're not the center of the universe.
Doug LisleHOST
26:23
It's like, okay, that was a very big deal.
Doug LisleHOST
26:29
This is as big a deal.
Doug LisleHOST
26:31
And just as the Copernican revolution was so disturbing to the status quo, it was unbelievably threatening to the church.
Doug LisleHOST
26:41
The next revolution of this magnitude was Darwin.
Doug LisleHOST
26:45
and god knows darwin is still being fought you know i mean people still have very difficult problems with darwin even highly intelligent people you know i mean still have problems with darwin uh that's because they don't understand okay and then even among people that understand and and are no longer fighting the notion of human beings as products of evolution Which, incidentally, the Catholic Church finally choked down in like 1992, for God's sakes.
Robert OvetzGUEST
26:12
It's not a new idea necessarily to Harry, but he does make it very fundamental to, uh, many of the writings that are in this volume.
Robert OvetzGUEST
26:19
It really kinda comes from, uh, something that the Italian autonomous Marxist Mario Tronti wrote about decades earlier, uh, that he called the Copernican Revolution.
Robert OvetzGUEST
26:31
And Tronti's point is that we need to start from the working class rather than from capital.
Robert OvetzGUEST
26:38
And Harry coins this term the inversion of class perspective.
Robert OvetzGUEST
26:46
It's not a new idea necessarily to Harry, but he does make it very fundamental to many of the writings that are in this volume.
Robert OvetzGUEST
26:53
It really kind of comes from something that the Italian autonomous Marxist Mario Tronti wrote about decades earlier that he called the Copernican Revolution.
Robert OvetzGUEST
27:05
And Tronti's point is that we need to start from the working class rather than from capital.
Robert OvetzGUEST
27:12
And Harry coins this term, the inversion class perspective.
Robert OvetzGUEST
26:06
It's not a new idea necessarily to Harry, but he does make it very fundamental to many of the writings that are in this volume.
Robert OvetzGUEST
26:14
It really kind of comes from something that the Italian autonomous Marxist Mario Tronti wrote about decades earlier that he called the Copernican Revolution.
Robert OvetzGUEST
26:26
And Tronti's point is that we need to start from the working class rather than from capital.
Robert OvetzGUEST
26:33
And Harry coins this term, the inversion class perspective.
Robert OvetzGUEST
25:00
It's not a new idea necessarily to Harry, but he does make it very fundamental to many of the writings that are in this volume.
Robert OvetzGUEST
25:07
It really kind of comes from something that the Italian autonomous Marxist Mario Tronti wrote about decades earlier that he called the Copernican Revolution.
Robert OvetzGUEST
25:19
And Tronti's point is that we need to start from the working class rather than from capital.
Robert OvetzGUEST
25:26
And Harry coins this term, the inversion class perspective.
Michael WardGUEST
13:45
He thought it was a rich and marvelous work.
Michael WardGUEST
13:48
And then more theologically in Lewis's Christian life, he said that the greatest Psalm in the Psalter was Psalm 19. the greatest poem in the book of psalms and one of the greatest lyrics in the world and of course it's that song that begins the heavens are telling the glory of god the firmament proclaims his handiwork so all these things show that lewis was absolutely steeped in in this uh old cosmology he didn't believe it was literally true of course you know he he accepted the copernican revolution that the sun is actually at the center of our solar system and the sun does not go around the earth even though it looks like it does we go around the sun um so he was he was content to accept the scientific advance brought about by copernicus of course um but he nonetheless thought that the pre-copernican cosmos um because of its of its spiritual interpretation of material reality conveyed an attitude to the universe which was worth retaining and which in some ways we have lost as science has progressed.
Michael WardGUEST
15:06
Science has in some measure spiritualized or disenchanted the universe.
Michael WardGUEST
15:14
And we now tend to think much more purely in materialistic terms, in terms of quantity.

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Wade FransonHOST
20:44
I'm reminded of that, but there's value in those early probings.
Wade FransonHOST
20:50
And there was certainly inspiration and revelation coming from the divine that was guiding us through that early childhood, if you will, of civilization.
Wade FransonHOST
21:01
prior to the Copernican Revolution.
Wade FransonHOST
21:03
These were just some of the thoughts I was having as you were talking.
Eran ShalevGUEST
12:19
and when they start looking at kings as sons.
Eran ShalevGUEST
12:24
Now, the most obvious example is Louis XIV in the 17th century, but by then we have the Copernican Revolution, and heliocentrism, which makes this metaphor much more powerful.
Eran ShalevGUEST
12:44
Because now the Sun is the focal point of the universe, basically.
Eran ShalevGUEST
12:49
We're still looking at a relatively small, compact universe in which first the Earth and now the Sun is the center.
Eran ShalevGUEST
12:58
and when they start looking at kings as sons.
Eran ShalevGUEST
13:04
Now, the most obvious example is Louis XIV in the 17th century, but by then we have the Copernican Revolution, and heliocentrism, which makes this metaphor much more powerful.
Eran ShalevGUEST
13:24
Because now the sun is the focal point of the universe, basically.
Eran ShalevGUEST
13:29
We're still looking at a relatively small, compact universe in which first the Earth and now the sun is the center.
Eran ShalevGUEST
12:28
and when they start looking at kings as sons.
Eran ShalevGUEST
12:34
Now, the most obvious example is Louis XIV in the 17th century, but by then we have the Copernican Revolution, and heliocentrism, which makes this metaphor much more powerful.
Eran ShalevGUEST
12:54
Because now the Sun is the focal point of the universe, basically.
Eran ShalevGUEST
12:59
We're still looking at a relatively small, compact universe in which first the Earth and now the Sun is the center.
Type Three AudioNARRATOR
9:47
And I notice that every answer I reach for, that we'll find some new source of purpose, that AI itself might help provide it, that maybe we will just get used to it, or that a different way of living will emerge, is still, I think, speaking the language of the wound.
Type Three AudioNARRATOR
10:02
So rather than attempt an answer, I will leave you with two pictures that I think beautifully illustrate the change the Copernican Revolution set in motion.
Type Three AudioNARRATOR
10:10
From the center of the universe to a mote of dust in a sunbeam.
Type Three AudioNARRATOR
10:14
There's an image here.

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