Converso

Absolutely.

B'nai Anusim, also known as the Forced Ones, the Conversos, the Moranos.

You know, it's an interesting story because for those of us who've been supportive of Israel, we always think of the Jewish people as the Jewish people, like the Ashkenazi Jews.

We don't really think of the Sephardi Jews, those who are descendants from the Iberian Peninsula, those who were from Spain, from Portugal.

i know a lot of people who went to jerusalem as very skeptical people and when they arrived it could stop crying you know deeply and uh it doesn't matter what they believe you know their neshama doesn't care what they believe too few things um you know as you're as you're

no no it's fine just fine and just something i'm observing and maybe you can help me understand a little bit because i think we're kind of dancing around this idea about the, you mentioned before about the crypto Judaism in Latin America, as well as, you know, in Converso.

And I think I read something that like, they estimate that one in four people in all of Latin America and South America have some Jewish ancestry and that there's like a meteoric rise of people who are looking back and getting records, right? Like, like even yourself in the story you told earlier, reconnecting to that.

And like, that seems to be like, talk about that.

I'm still practicing Sabbateanism and Cabal- Kabbalah in private, in secret.

And this is what I want all of you to do as well." And that started the whole Converso infiltration into other religions, which they saw as a sacrament, that in order to...

It was part of their apostatizing of the Jewish religion by falsely converting to Catholicism or Islam or even into other Jewish sects.

And this movement-

A- and people wanna a- people wanna say, "Oh, why were," you know, "why were they ejected from y- you know, over 2,000 locations?" I mean, when I think about that, when I think about a, a group of people that is religious and being subjected to a group that is sub, you know, sub- subjective, rational, and just basically focuses on intellect, I, I just don't understand how it even, h- how that even happened.

Well, that's why, well, that's why, that's why, I mean, there's a, there's a big issue with the Conversos or the Marranos.

Like, if you wanna, I mean, which is frankly like a, an insulting term.

Um-

But this id- but then it was clear that like, well, it's not just, this tension here isn't just one of, one of, uh, one of faith.

There were, and I think, uh, I think even de Maistre wrote about this, unless I'm confusing him with, with, um, um, I, I-- un- unless I, unless I, unless I'm wrong.

I believe he made the point, you know, some of these Conversos, they probably were like genuine believers in Christ.

Mm-hmm.