Construction Management Association of America

And then, um, as far as conferences, associations, I've, I've been a part of a lot of them.

ASPE as an estimator, CMAA, COA, Curt.

There's, again, there's a lot out there, DBIA.

It kinda depends on what your role is in construction and what makes sense.

And then when it comes to conferences, man, there are so many to name, but a lot of those that we just talked about, those associations have their own conferences.

Curt, DBIA's got multiple.

COA, CMAA's-

ASPE

We need to train everyone on how to do it." And that followed me through each step of my career as well, having a role within the company, whether it's just a, a specialist on tech or the whole company's tech strategy to be in charge of that, leading best practice teams and writing charters and all that fun stuff.

About a decade ago, I was invited to be part of the Construction Management of Association of America, CMAA's technology subcommittee, and that's been such a, a joyful part of my career because I meet amazing people from the best firms in the industry.

"We can do anything but share a file," is our joke because of all the different firewalls and protocols.

But it's seeing people and the firms they're with and the organizations of all shapes and sizes, serving all different types of clients- All at different stages of tech maturity and bringing in partners to learn things.

What we're, you know, continually preaching, right? And I, I think that's kind of the, the beauty, the irony, whatever, of all this, that so often as a trade, as a GC, as an architect, as whoever, you feel like you're the only one that thinks this way and feels this way, and that all the others are the enemies, right? And, uh, this kind of message that regardless of what perspective you're coming from, there are, you know, still unfortunately a growing minority of folks that have this belief that, yeah, it's people first, it's understanding what are the, those, those standard processes and then how are we gonna speak to each other.

That taxonomy is kind of this term that keeps coming up, that starts with the stakeholder perspective that you come from.

And so I just, I love that as I learn more about CMAA, the tech committee, what everybody was saying, it's like, yeah, guys, you're saying the exact same thing as all the GCs, as all the trades.

Just we're all saying them within our little silos, and so how do we get everybody to say it together? And I think starting at the universities is, is a great way to go.