Constellation program

And- I think to ask him what he thought about, like, the space program.

I think this is back during Constellation program, and he's like, "Hey, I got a whole book about, like, the moon program and Apollo artifacts coming out.

You should be on the [laughs] lookout for it." And I was like, "Yes, we will.

Thank you very much." You know? [laughs] Um, we were talking about female writers earlier, uh, during one of the breaks.

As soon as it finishes assembling the International Space Station, we retire the shuttle.

You take all that money you save from not running the shuttle anymore and you put it into new moon rockets, new lunar landers, and we'll be back on the moon by 2020." That was Constellation program.

So they had the situation where the official policy was we're now pivoting towards the moon, uh, but we'll have a space station, but without a shuttle to give it cargo, right? H- 'Cause you, you have a space station, you need air and water and food and scientific equipment and whatever you wanna do.

It has to be brought up there continuous, not to even to mention people.