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And that's why I say both gold and copper and silver should only work higher once the gold and silver gets past this last corrective phase that is currently at now.

And on the miners, I mean, I was looking at this report from CoFace this morning.

It's a global credit insurer.

They say it can take 15 to 20 years to bring a new mine online and copper could be short by as much as 17 percent by 2035.

Then I got a phone call from Cornwall Ferry.

We are representing an insurance company, and at the time, the world's largest credit insurance company called Coface Group.

And Coface had a big gap in their map.

It represented the GCC countries in the Middle East, plus the whole Middle East, spanning all the way from the eastern part of the Middle East all the way to Lebanon and Syria-