Colwyn Trevarthen

Yes.

I mean, well, in agreement with Colwyn Trevarthen, another great, uh, laterality researcher, and, and, and, and, and Russell and myself, et cetera, the communication is between, uh, au- auditory tone, prosody, touch, and facial expressions.

Those are how, those, those are how, what go back and forth, et cetera, in this very rapid communication, et cetera.

So, uh, yes, in the, as a matter of fact, in the trauma lecture that I'm going to give, I cite her and the ability at four months, you know, to, uh, uh, to predict later attachment down the line there, et cetera.