Mm-mm.

Right? You have to lead into it and build up to it.

So you take a general psychiatric history, like where were you born, how far did you go in school, are you married, what, what's your work history, and so on.

And then why are you here? And then, "Do you have trouble with anxiety, trouble with depression? Tell me about that." And that may lead to depression, panic disorder, whatever diagnoses.

But once you're launching into the dissociation part, you start with open-ended questions, and then you narrow down, down to more closed-ended, specific questions.

And this is after you've taken the child abuse history.

Uh, "Do you have any trouble with your memory?" "No." "Okay, so we're, we're off of the path of leading us to DID." "Well," the answer is, "Yes, I have a terrible memory.

Is the goal to merge all of the alters or identities into one single one, or to have Compatibility among the different parts

It's not a choice, I'm assuming.

Uh, no.

Nobody sits down at age four and goes, "Hmm, I think I will develop the following." Right? So it's all the m- unconscious mind coping with things, and the, the basic skill was illustrated, not on purpose, when I was in medical school.

We watched a video of a woman having surgery, abdominal surgery, and she's, of course, lying down flat.

There's a curtain in front of, in between her and where the surgery's happening.

Uh, her blood pressure's normal, her pulse is normal.

She feels fine.

Why do some people who experience childhood trauma develop dissociative identity disorder and others CPTSD or something else?

which is the

precursor of the placenta, which has made up trophoblast cells, it stabilized and became the stable placenta at the same time as the pancreas started secreting pancreatic enzymes.

So I thought, oh, I wonder if the pancreatic enzymes are the signal that tells the trophoblast cells to settle down.

Because what they do, what their job is, is they have to invade the wall of the uterus They have to create their own blood supply.

They have to resist surveillance by the mother's immune system.

They have to be able to migrate, change locations.

And they're relatively undifferentiated.

Could you just explain in accessible terms what those are and why they're a promising starting point?

So in your personal opinion, how much do financial incentives shape what becomes accepted medicine versus what gets marginalized?

So I'm a psychiatrist, so I focus a lot on what's going on in psychiatry.

And 15 years ago, maybe, there was a study comparing St. John's wort, which is W-O-R-T, to Zoloft and placebo.

And St. John's wort was equally as effective as an antidepressant as the medication.

But the authors of the paper spent all their time discussing the fact that the Zoloft was more effective than the placebo.

And just downplayed and didn't mention, didn't talk about the fact that St. John's wort also is more effective than placebo and is equally as effective as the medication.

So you see that bias all the time in psychiatry and in the rest of medicine.

Why are people conditioned to trust something otherwise? More when it's technological, synthetic, expensive, or institutional, even though the human body evolved in relationship with food and plants and sunlight and sleep in the natural environment.

is in the Second

World War, because people have been manipulating and controlling people forever, right? So just making a government-organized, sophisticated, scientific doctors involved, that's at least in the Second World War.

So 1941 or 2, all this intelligence agencies, which are kind of scattered all over the place in the U.S., were brought under the umbrella of the Office of Strategic Services, which is the OSS.

And then the OSS was disbanded at the end of the war.

And then in 1947, the CIA was created, and a lot of the OSS guys just moved over there.

So there's a guy named G.H. Estabrooks.

He's a chapter in the book.

Eh, maybe not.