Colin Holderman

And I could have gone with the stability of Hunter Gattis.

We ended up missing on Colin Holderman, who might have been the biggest miss at .8 wins above replacement.

You could have went with Festa.

You just think he's going to get you value by getting on the mound in the regular season.

mostly because it also relies on another team doing what we likely expect them to do.

And that would be trading outfielder Luke Raley and relief prospect, if there is such a thing, Charlie Baylinson, to the Cleveland Guardians for right-handed reliever Colin Holderman.

The Guardians, as we know, don't like paying late arbitration players.

And both Joe Adele and Stephen Kwan, their corner outfielders, slash Adele being a bit of a DH, are both expected to make roughly $20 million in arbitration this upcoming season.

So I am trying to find certain ways that the organization can improve on their bullpen without necessarily having to go dip into the Bray and Abreu's or the David Bednar level markets that they're likely not going to jump into regardless.

So I tried to identify somebody who financially could line up with Luke Raley, who may be a arbitration level type pitcher, who an organization might want to look to move on from.

And I came to Colin Holderman.

Now my concern here, and has been elevated by people online, as Colin Holderman might be a little too good in a Luke Raley trade, even for Charlie Baylinson.

And let's not forget the injury bug that bit us hard.

Sarah from Rochester asks, with so many guys on IL, how does the front office view the health of this core heading into winter? We saw Reese Hoskins, Colin Holderman, Luis Castillo, and others listed on various injury lists.

That has to weigh on planning.

It weighs heavily.

Um, you know, I, I think even if you had them, you're still going to get gassed.

Cause the same reason that like, I mean, if you have a Holderman, you know what you don't use, you don't use Armstrong as much.

He's going to do this.

No, you.

more analysis you get your mailbag questions answered on the show and you also get the monthly live subscriber video chat that we do lots of fun so go to lockdown guardians on supercast.com or check the link in the show notes to find it all right so what you were saying before about the circle of trust i do agree the bull obviously we know this this is proven the bullpen shrinks in the postseason and you're absolutely right about the starting pitching and the games you play And that's how the raise out guardians, the guardians, they had a better starting rotation.

They were deeper.

They trusted more guys, but you're saying like, okay, Holderman takes Armstrong's innings.

Maybe, but, But that's the whole point is you have to have another reliever that's in the circle of trust.

And like-

Yeah, I mean, that's with, with the absence of Colin Holderman sucks for them.

Correct.

And when you go bullpen, you know, that leverage reliever could've been Shawn Armstrong, [chuckles] right? But he pitched the first inning for you.

I don't know about, uh, game three or, and not game three, but game four or game five, if they maybe consider using an opener again, uh, if that's an option there, uh, But if he pitches in game four, games five, six, seven, if it goes to that, you could see him in a critical moment late in the game.

Because right now, who else do they have? Colin Holderman just had surgery today.

The guy who they used as a fireman during the season, he's not an option.

Sean Armstrong, you're going to be pulling him in in the sixth, seventh inning, somewhere in there, to get you to those big at-bats.

So I mean, you look.

You know, Colin Holderman's on that team too, another f- uh, former Met bullpen arm.

Uh, Daniel Vogel- Vogelbach trade.

I mean, you know, these are deeply flawed teams in the postseason outside of the Dodgers, so it's kind of amazing to me.