Cluely, Inc.

And so if you like are not on Twitter and then you log on and your entire feed is just like Corgi girl references, you're probably like, what is going on?

It's very, like, post-Cluely, like, rage bait marketing, like, we're in this era.

But my thing is, like, with the pharmaceutical sales, and I knew girls, they came to our sorority, I remember, and, like, recruited, you know, people in college.

And I did door-to-door sales, which was also, they were recruiting from sororities to do.

On the contrary, I think it is easier for a rogue deployment to hide among the non-rogue deployments at a frontier model developer than elsewhere, and I don't think we have any reason to buy that they are especially vigilant.

I think a rogue model can do much more at OpenAI than at Cluley if just because the budget will run out sooner at Cluley.

Second, models are now large and valuable.

Frontier models are routinely more than a terabyte in size and actively pursued through industrial espionage.

But obviously, for speech-to-speech, you do need larger models because you, like, innately are handling some intelligence.

The way I think about it is that a speech-to-speech model just means to be big enough to cheat with Cluey.

So, like, the idea is the model will talk to you and, like, secretly be looking things up in the background and talking to you.

Kind of like an engineer cheating with Cluey.

But if you're not smart enough, it's easy to build a really tiny model that is not smart enough even to do that.

And so that's the main challenge of speech-to-speech is you just want to be able to do reliable tool calling, reliably kind of understand what it's supposed to do.

It makes things way easier.

And I think that we have a lot of great examples like Duolingo, probably one of the first ones where we're like, the employees are doing everything and it's all in-house or Cluely where they're making their own content and videos.

So it can definitely work.

I mean, most marketers I know are shy and they don't even, they don't really want to be in front of the camera.