Clive Cussler

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In 2001, Clive Cussler filed a lawsuit against E. Lee Spence for unfair competition, injurious falsehood, civil conspiracy, and defamation.

Spence filed a countersuit against Kessler in 2002, seeking damages, claiming that Kessler was engaging in unfair...

Okay,

tell me,

when did it get raised? This seems like there's just these guys fighting about it, and maybe that's why it never got raised.

But do you know the name Clive Cussler? I've heard it, yeah.

He's like a welfare Tom Clancy.

Okay.

Every time I see, um, cause it's a Clive Cussler author too.

I'm pretty certain.

So I, every now and again, we'll see the Clive Cussler with Justin Scott.

And I sent you a picture.

I'm like, you're more successful than all of us.

The Michigan Shipwreck Research Association, or the MSRA, a Michigan-based nonprofit, conducts an annual search for the missing airplane.

The investigation began in 2004 as a collaboration between Clive Cussler, an author and explorer, and the MSRA.

Cussler withdrew from the project in 2013, but his side-scan sonar operator returned to Michigan in 2015, 2016, and 2017 to investigate some leads uncovered by the MSRA.

In 2008, a mass grave was found containing the remains of some of the 58 victims of Flight 2501.

What are you talking about?

I, I g- I guess it would have to be Clive Cussler.

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Yeah.

So we always had books around the house, but they were always kind of, like, pulpy books.

My dad really loved, like, Clive Cussler books and, you know, my mom had a whole bunch of different, like, pulpy historical romance kinds of books.

She also was a nurse, and so we had Taber's Medical Encyclopedia, and we had a set of World Book Encyclopedias, which used to be sold door to door, or through Reader's Digest you'd get.

This is, for anyone that's under 50, this is, like, who knew that you could mail order encyclopedias? But you could.

Um-

I can tell, I can definitely tell you when I was buying Clancy novels very regularly, he was next to Clive Cussler on the bookshelves.

Right.

That was, right.

Yeah.

Yes.

I th- I tried a Clive Cussler one, I think, and didn't-

Mm

It was.

It was a Clive Cussler

novel, which they then adapted to a movie.

And I think it cost $27 million to make the movie, and it took $9 million at the box office to make it.

It's d- it's a different genre, but I enjoyed it.

Um, well, Clive Cussler.

I used to like all the action ones.

Um, but yeah, I'd, and again, go back and read them now and they, they'd feel pretty dated.

was the other one it wasn't Ken Fulton was it Ken Fulton that did his thingy

a lot of these I think there was another author called Steve Berry does a lot of these kind of historical yes Clive Cussler that's yeah that's who I'm thinking of yeah

yeah I was going to yeah Clive Cussler

yeah but um they're quite quite easy and kind of good to read uh but uh yeah i think i read another one called the totem i think it was called it's another book i've read so but uh yeah so obviously he isn't just famous for one thing he's had his own style as well yeah

because he was a journalist